4 more years of "dubya"

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Postby sod » Sun Nov 14, 2004 7:37 pm

I should have guessed that someone to lazy to vote would be unable to carry on a discussion without resorting to name calling!!!

I only wish you would put 1/4 of the effort, you do into complaining about your country, into doing something positive for your country!!!

At least that dumbazz Michael Moore put his money where his vote was!!!

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Unwillingness isn't laziness

Postby AllenETreat » Sun Nov 14, 2004 7:48 pm

And it isn't. As for Michael Moore he made his $$$ off of
Fahreheit 9/11 - that piss poor attempt at a 60's
counter-culture romp that ultimetely got him nowhere
other than the bank.

You could've given me Strom Thurmond for interim President,
but don't lose dubya & Al Gore ( who I unfortunately decided
to vote for as both choices were lame - he lost. TFB - I shoulda sat
out that one, in retrospect. )

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Postby sod » Sun Nov 14, 2004 7:57 pm

Blah Blah Blah, I did not care enough to vote, but I care enough to complain about the results, Blah Blah Blah.


You can't win if you don't play!!

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Postby AllenETreat » Sun Nov 14, 2004 8:03 pm

sod wrote: You can't win if you don't play!!

Yeah, sport, they say that about the lottery too - ever check out
the million-or-so-one-to-odds?

If you're so into the voting system, go replace those poll worker's
that average 72yrs old! Be part of the "system" then!

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Postby Senate » Sun Nov 14, 2004 8:22 pm

Can you make a blank vote in the US system? I'm asking because here in France, when you don't wanna vote for either of the candidates, you can make a vote for no one and they're counted as null but at least you expressed your voice.
If such vote isn't possible in the US, I can understand AET point of view...

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Postby sod » Sun Nov 14, 2004 9:17 pm

I'll take the high road, and you....... :rolleyes:

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Postby thombrogan » Sun Nov 14, 2004 9:50 pm

dyad wrote:Whoever controls Iraq..controls the Oil !!!
There's plenty of oil off of the shores of the USA in the coastal shelves; there's plenty in Alaska; there's plenty in Saudi Arabia (Americans and Brits found it and then their countries let Saudi Arabia 'nationalize' the wells); there's plenty in the Russian Federation; there's plenty in Iran; there's plenty in Kuwait; and there's plenty in various African and Asian nations as well.

Kuwait and Nigeria each currently pump out the same amount of oil that Iraq produces, Iran does just under twice the oil production of Iraq, and Saudi Arabia barrels up just under four times Iraq's daily output. Of these countries, Nigeria's closer and is more rife with civil unrest and Kuwait has the smallest amount of personnel fit for military service.

Because we did not invade more oppurtune targets, such as Kuwait, Libya (which almost rhymes with Dubya), or Nigeria, I would have to say that your statement is incorrect.

Now riddle me this: If there weren't weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and Saddam stood to benefit from opening up Iraq to UN weapons inspections, why was his regime always stalling when Blix and crew were over there?

Why is it so easy for you to believe that we're only in Iraq for the oil?

Speaking of coastal shelf oil, I say let's drill and get our fill. And work on making some bioengineered crops that produce an oil equivalent to petroleum. Sure, hippies stand in our way, but we can throw weed and hallucinogens at their feet and go about our merry way!
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Postby garrett » Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:06 pm

Allen, you never answered a question posed earlier. Who would be the best candidate for you? I think that your conspiracy theory about big money controlling politics (which now that I think about it, may have some credence) is a little too extreme. Could you run for president right now with your current bank account? I know that I couldn’t. I would, just to see how far I would make it if I was available. So please, don’t keep using the "Bu$h" if you are not going to say anything about the MILLIONS of dollars that Kerry has in his wives accounts.

But back to my question, who would have motivated you enough to get out and vote?

Inquiring minds want to know

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Postby garrett » Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:07 pm

Throm,

dont forget about South America, whe it come to where the oil is!!

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Postby Mancer » Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:04 pm

SOD, I dont even waste my time following politics, Im not a citizen, I cant vote so I mearly observe.
What worries me about this great country (or is that continent from the size of it? :) ) is the likes of this "patriot act", it can be said its for the good of the country, and its cause of this n that.
But what happens when so many of these kind of laws are passed, that you are now sitting firmly in a communist enviroment, that because you wont have rights, only big brother will.

You can flame me, Im not saying such a thing will happen, its just a concern that if such a law can be passed as easily as it was, what else could be?
Will this country be back to a civil war oneday soon to get it back to the point that the 1st civil war had achieved?

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Postby Concord_Bob » Wed Nov 17, 2004 7:02 pm

AllenETreat wrote:Voting in the country is a right

That is correct, it's a right. And it is taken away from felons. Thank God for that.

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Postby CKE » Wed Nov 17, 2004 11:12 pm

No more good can come of this :(
Carlos shut this baby down, I expect this at the other forums....reason why I don't go there...not here!
Come on guys, seriously find something else to talk about or we will ALL lose the off topic forum.
Keep Fighting the Good Fight!

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CKE's right.

Postby Ray.Hood » Thu Nov 18, 2004 12:04 pm

Bought any cool toys lately guys and gals?
Sorry I left, feel kinda stupid now. :o

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Postby java » Thu Nov 18, 2004 12:14 pm

Ray.Hood wrote:Bought any cool toys lately guys and gals?
Sorry I left, feel kinda stupid now. :o
We all need a break from time-to-time. Glad you're back.

No toys. Just books. I am cerebrally playing with myself lately. (Ooops. :o That may have been TMI. Please no mental picture interpretations.)
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Ooookaay.

Postby Ray.Hood » Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:55 pm

;) I do understand J. I just speed-read the newest T. Clancy. Yay.
It was ok. later.

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Postby java » Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:05 pm

[quote="Ray.Hood"] ]
Better than Clancy (and it's real) is Eric Haney's Inside Delta Force: The Story of America's Elite Counterterrorist Unit. Hayney was one of original members of SOF-D. The book is first person, well written, insightful, and gives you pause to wonder about what we're up against out there.

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Postby thombrogan » Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:20 pm

garrett wrote:dont forget about South America, whe it come to where the oil is!!
Thanks for the heads-up! I checked it out (skipping Guyana, French Guyana, and Suriname - was that wrong?) and it looks like Mexico and USA each produce more oil on a daily basis than Iraq and South America. We don't even have to leave the North American continent.
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Postby voxnaes » Fri Nov 19, 2004 3:14 am

java wrote:Better than Clancy (and it's real) is Eric Haney's Inside Delta Force: The Story of America's Elite Counterterrorist Unit. Hayney was one of original members of SOF-D. The book is first person, well written, insightful, and gives you pause to wonder about what we're up against out there.

j

Funny you should mention the Delta Force I actually invented the Delta Force!
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Good to be here J.

Postby Ray.Hood » Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:49 am

Met a few operators in my time. I'll have to look into that.
Clancy is like brain candy. Last good book I read was about WW2.
The Rangers rescued POWs from a Phillipine camp.Killer story.
Anyone read Richard Marcinko?

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Postby Sword and Shield » Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:40 pm

Ray.Hood wrote:Met a few operators in my time. I'll have to look into that.
Clancy is like brain candy. Last good book I read was about WW2.
The Rangers rescued POWs from a Phillipine camp.Killer story.
Anyone read Richard Marcinko?
Ghost Soldiers, I presume? Heckuva book. :)
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