C83 Persian

Discuss Spyderco's products and history.
Ed Schempp
Member
Posts: 787
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: Ephrata, Washington USA

C83 Persian

Postby Ed Schempp » Wed Nov 26, 2003 1:00 am

There are several features in the design of the C83 Persian that I'd like to share with you folks. I like multiple working grip positions. The back grip on the Persian allows the slightly negative angled blade to work as a 4.5 inch blade rather than its measured lenght of 3.5 inches. By choking up on the blade you have more control for delicate cutting operations. Moving your middle finger into the index finger groove allows for a fine caping action. The knife is narrow at the standard grip index finger position. Your index finger is the fulcurm to which the thumb holds the knife. This positon has alot to do with how easy it is to manipulate the knife with your fingers. Try this out for yourself by using sticks of various widths and see how far you can rotate the sticks between your thumb and forefinger. This knife holds very naturally in the reverse grip position. When the knife is clipped in your right pocket slid back toward your hip, the long radius of the back of the handle guides and slides your hand into the pocket without scraping your hand. This aids in pocket access and knife delivery. Let me congratulate Spyderco on the high quality that this design has been delivered to market. I'm more than satisfied with this vault of a knife..Thanks..Ed Schempp

User avatar
swede
Member
Posts: 955
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: Arizona, USA

Postby swede » Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:40 pm

Thanks for the info, Ed. Looks like a beautiful design, and you are to be congratulated too!!

Can't wait to get my hands on one.

Dave

User avatar
Jurphaas
Member
Posts: 1278
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:00 pm
Location: Leiden Netherlands

Postby Jurphaas » Wed Nov 26, 2003 10:50 pm

Hello Ed, thank you for sharing the detail of your design with us. I have not yet received my knife, but it is in the mail as I've been told. We've met before at the Spyderco booth this year at the SHOT show in Orlando and I look forward meeting you again next year in Las Vegas. I highly appreciate the Persian design and I would love to talk knives and damascus with you again. Have a great Thanksgiving and a peaceful holiday season.
Jurphaas.

Clipits work!

User avatar
The Deacon
Member
Posts: 25214
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: Upstate SC, USA
Contact:

Postby The Deacon » Thu Nov 27, 2003 7:23 am

Thanks for the info Ed, and thanks even more for designing what, IMHO, is one of the best looking Spydies ever. Not an easy trick designing something that combines functionality with grace and eye appeal, but you sure nailed it on this one. Now if my fellow southpaws and I can just bully Sal into making a LH clip for it, it will be perfect!

Paul

User avatar
4077th
Member
Posts: 378
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: Seki City, Virginia, USA Earth

Postby 4077th » Thu Nov 27, 2003 7:57 am

Is this going to be available with Spyderedge?

User avatar
Carlos
Member
Posts: 1734
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: Phoenix USA

Postby Carlos » Thu Nov 27, 2003 10:15 am

There are no plans for a SpyderEdge variant.

User avatar
The Deacon
Member
Posts: 25214
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: Upstate SC, USA
Contact:

Postby The Deacon » Thu Nov 27, 2003 10:21 am

Just wanted to add that, shortly after writing my first reply here, I grabbed one off eBay.

Paul

User avatar
dialex
Member
Posts: 9167
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: Campina, Romania, Europe, Terra
Contact:

Postby dialex » Fri Nov 28, 2003 5:20 pm

Dear Mr. Schempp,
Congratulations on your newest custom collaboration with Spyderco. The Persian has some beautiful lines and the ergonomy seems great. It hit the spot at first sight <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> Thank you.

<a href="http://users.pcnet.ro/dialex"><font color=blue>(my page)</font></a>

Ed Schempp
Member
Posts: 787
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: Ephrata, Washington USA

Postby Ed Schempp » Sat Nov 29, 2003 2:16 am

Hi Jurphaas,
I'm looking forward to sharing some time with you in Vegas, have a safe journey, and thank you for the kind comments..Ed

Paul Janulis
Member
Posts: 1
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: Rochester, Michigan USA
Contact:

Postby Paul Janulis » Sun Aug 29, 2004 9:53 am

Mr. Shemp and others,

As my first post on this forum, I just wanted to comment on how awesome I think this knife is. I just got mine a few weeks ago, and I must say that this is currently my favorite folder. The design is both highly practical as well as beautiful, and is now my main EDC. Very nice work!

I may write a more detailed review on my site, or even here when time allows, just to express why I feel so strongly about this product...
...but now I am off to teach a class...

yours,

Paul

User avatar
AllenETreat
Member
Posts: 3156
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: The Constitution State USA

Postby AllenETreat » Sun Aug 29, 2004 3:18 pm

Ed -

Let me tell you I think the Persian has
<i>Cold Steel's </i> scimitar beat in the "looks" dept. - and I'm certain in
the "works" dept. ( as soon as I get my
hands on one <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>)

You did a great job - hopefully many more
here will see the fewer "whistles, bells & sirens" ( read : G-10, compression lock, etc. ) the better. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

AET

Some things are necessary evils, some things are more evil than necessary. John Le Carre

User avatar
kudzu74
Member
Posts: 137
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: Brandon, MS

Postby kudzu74 » Sun Aug 29, 2004 6:32 pm

Hey Ed, I enjoyed meeting you at 'Blade Show' up in Atlanta back in June though we didn't talk much I enjoyed showing the Tan FRN Spyderco Native and seeing your 'Damascus Folder'? I just remember it being a wavy blade with a lot of etching design done to it and I believe some type of bone or grooved handle. Can you tell us more about that knife? Maybe post a pic here of it? If not, I understand...I hope to come across a Persain soon though I much prefer Natives as Jeff Smith could tell yah. Thanks again for your support of Spyderco. I'd like to learn sometime from you how you come up with knife designs...I'm sorta looking into getting into knifemaking...though not too sure how much time and money I can invest as an amautuer. Okay, time to shut now...ha...take it easy! <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

Ed Schempp
Member
Posts: 787
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: Ephrata, Washington USA

Postby Ed Schempp » Sun Aug 29, 2004 7:05 pm

Hi Kudzu74,
I remember meeting you in Atlanta. The knife I showed you I call the Moro Kris. Sal has asked me for ethnic designs, so this is what is happening on that front. The knife to my knowledge is in the pipeline, but I don't know if the blade can be ground by the subcontractor.
When I started making knives 14 years ago I wanted to build folders. I did fixed blades for several years refining my skills. I then got side tracked by forging and steel making. After 12 years I finally got around to building folders, mainly to be able to showcase the Mosaic Damascus Steel I was making and wanted to sell. I had to find a path through building a folder than I could understand and repeat and improve. My designs start with what do you want to cut, what do you want to do with the knife? I design a blade shape for that function, then I build the best handle I can to control that blade shape and nest into the handle nicely when closed. With the more knives I design the more I learn. I've only made about 40 folders total, but I have about 35 designs. Some 20 plus of those designs have a round hole in the blade. Sal gave me the opportunity to design for a good company and I try to give him a lot from which to choose. This is not an easy task as Spyderco has produced 80 plus different designs and rejected multiple of that number. Some knives have been in the design loop for quite a while waiting for the technology to produce them commercially. I really enjoy the challenge. I look at the distributor catalogs with dozens of thumbnails of pictures of most knives made then I try to make something that doesn't look like all the rest. There is a picture of the Moro Kris in Nov. Blade magazine.

jaxon
Member
Posts: 867
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: SGV, CA USA

Postby jaxon » Sun Aug 29, 2004 10:31 pm

Thanks everybody for the info. I have a Persian coming from Ebay and all of your comments make it the more interesting experience.

Cheers,

Jaxon

Live to Ride....Ride to Live

thombrogan
Member
Posts: 2074
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: New Hampshire USA

Postby thombrogan » Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:34 am

Mr. Schempp,

Your C83 Persian design is beautiful, but it won't be in my collection until <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> makes the clip moveable to the left-hand side. My daughter appears to be right-handed (she's 4 months young, so I'm just guessing here), so she's definitely going to have one.

-Thom Brogan <a href="http://www.tntbrogan.com" target="_blank">Pictures</a> of our daughter, Cynthia

BigDog96
Member
Posts: 77
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: Mackinaw , ILLINOIS USA

Postby BigDog96 » Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:51 am

Same goes for me , love your beautiful knife and could not wait to see it before it came out . Finally got a look at it and was disappointed to see it was a righty only .If Sal would drill just three little holes for me I would buy in a heartbeat .

thombrogan
Member
Posts: 2074
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: New Hampshire USA

Postby thombrogan » Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:01 am

Yep. I've heard some say that it's an art knife and that putting more holes in the handle would ruin its aesthetic, but I disagree. The steel is VG10, the handles are micarta, and it has a midlock on its spine. You can't make more of a user knife than that these days.

-Thom Brogan <a href="http://www.tntbrogan.com" target="_blank">Pictures</a> of our daughter, Cynthia

fractoichi
Member
Posts: 41
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am

Postby fractoichi » Mon Aug 30, 2004 5:56 pm

A left-hand clip on the Persionwould truly be a delight!!!

How about a fixed blade version? Now that would be a rue work of blade art.

jaxon
Member
Posts: 867
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: SGV, CA USA

Postby jaxon » Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:07 pm

I've kinda gotta disagree guys. Its like the Viele, Centofantes, and other collaborations. Clips stay as they come. I still love 'em, 'course I'm a confirmed Righty (hand coordination and lotsa other ways).

Cheers,

Jaxon

Live to Ride....Ride to Live

User avatar
Al
Member
Posts: 1051
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland United Kingdom

Postby Al » Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:30 pm

I love my Persian - the handle fits the hand like a glove, nice weight and micarta handles and ss bolsters make it a fine knife. I will be getting another!.


Return to “Spyderco General Discussion”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Buddafucco, Enactive, koenigsegg, Mike Slayer, Notsurewhy, steelcity16, TkoK83Spy and 24 guests