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Re: New Manix 2

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IowaGeologist wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:27 am
Converted my SPY 27 to screws and this is what I found after opening up. This knife was pretty lightly used, and kept out pretty clean in my opinion.

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I just don't see why pinned would be preferred over screwed construction. If you're worried about screws backing out (never had that happen personally) there's red Loctite. If you ever happen to need to access the knife for cleaning, heat the screws up to loosen, clean, and throw Loctite back on.

First time I've seen washers like that with a second anchor point. Thanks for the photo.

I wonder what advantage or benefit this type has over plain circular washers?
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Re: New Manix 2

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Well,
I now have the Manix 2 Lightweight.
The Pros: The blade is made of CTS BD1N and it is super sharp. The ergonomics are awesome with 2 solid grips posisions for my hand size. The lock is very stout and easy to operate. The knife is very light. The blade is centered. I love the leaf blade. Over all construction looks good with no scratches or scuff marks. It is a nice looking knife.

The Cons: The scale texture is not aggressive enough, in my opinion. The sharpened edge bevel is heavily lopsided to the left side of the blade. The blade is very stiff to open and fails to drop freely once the lock is released regardless of the blade being open or closed. I loosened the pivot screws to the point they are absolutely loose, free turning with zero torque and the blade is still stiff to open and close. The blade must have constant pressure on the Spyder hole until it is locked into place if opened with one hand, no Spyder flick.
I'm not sure if this is the way this knife should operate or not.

It functions as a good basic knife should. It feels pretty good in the hand, it is sharp, it slices, and cuts well. It looks great and is very light. Maybe it will loosen up a bit after it breaks in.
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Re: New Manix 2

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Wartstein wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:19 am
mongo1958 wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:08 am
Wartstein wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:19 pm
Bolster wrote:
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I actually have no problems whatsoever even with my REX 45 Manix LW (pinned of course), despite using it for food prep and a lot in rain, snow and damp conditions. Even carry it iwb on long, sweaty trailruns and don't even apply oil anymore...
IWB? I must admit that I have never done that.

Iwb-carry generally does not work for me too well either (some others here like it a lot).

But in running shorts with no pockets or shorts /pants with just thin garment and floppy pockets it is the only or at least still best way to carry a folder, especially when being active (running, climbing...).

It really exposes the blade to sweat though, but this has never been a problem for me even with non stainless steels like REX 45. Others here obviously have a lot more "corrosive sweat" [Vivi, where are you?]

/ Btw: Does your Manix feature BD1 or BD1N steel now?
BD1N, see my review.
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Re: New Manix 2

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mongo1958 wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:24 am
Well,
I have the Manix 2 Lightweight.
The Pros: The blade is made of CTS BD1N and it is super sharp. The ergonomics are awesome with 2 solid grips posisions for my hand size. The lock is very stout and easy to operate. The knife is very light. The blade is centered. I love the leaf blade. Over all construction looks good with no scratches or scuff marks. It is a nice looking knife.

The Cons: The scale texture is not aggressive enough, in my opinion. The sharpened edge bevel is heavily lopsided to the left side of the blade. The blade is very stiff to open and fails to drop freely once the lock is released regardless of the blade being open or closed. I loosened the pivot screws to the point they are absolutely loose, free turning with zero torque and the blade is still stiff to open and close. The blade must have constant pressure on the Spyder hole until it is locked into place if opened with one hand, no Spyder flick.
I'm not sure if this is the way this knife should operate or not.

It functions as a good basic knife should. It feels pretty good in the hand, it is sharp, it slices, and cuts well. It looks great and is very light. Maybe it will loosen up a bit after it breaks in.

Well, I hope you (still) do enjoy your Manix!! :smlling-eyes

And once more without wanting to diminish your joy with the new knife, two points I mentioned in a previous post already could come into play here (I´ll quote myself):

1.) Amazon:
..... " even if an independent dealer sells on Amazon, returns come into a "general pool" and are resold from there: So you might (just might!!) get an example someone has already returned for some flaw (perhaps just sticky action or something like that), the dealer could not check themselves and now you get the piece delivered."

I don´t return knives at all normally, but only with Amazon I sure would if the "sticky action" would bother me (but I don´t buy Spydies from Amazon anymore anyway). (It could very well be that someone has already returned that particular knife once cause of the tight action).
Then you could lay down a bit more money, but in return buy from a dealer whom you could ask to actually check for action and send you a "good one"


2.) Action
"....Speaking of action: The Manix 2 LW to me is a knife with a lot of variety concerning that matter, at least among the I think 4 pieces I had so far. Some really buttery smooth and drop shutty, some rather sticky and pretty hard to dial in (to me personally not an issue though, I don´t need "drop shutty" at all)."

So: It will break in a bit, but with the LW there definitely IS a lot of variance concerning the action!

If I were you though I´d just keep and enjoy the Manix you have in hand!
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Re: New Manix 2

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None of the 3 Manix lightweight variants that I have are drop shut. I actually prefer them that way.
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Re: New Manix 2

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mine doesn't drop shut like the g10 versions, but it does spydie flick easily and i only have to flick my wrist lightly to get it to close. i honestly can't remember how tight it was when i got it, but "break-in" only goes so far.
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Re: New Manix 2

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Mr. Wartstein,

"Well, I hope you (still) do enjoy your Manix!! If I were you though I´d just keep and enjoy the Manix you have in hand!"

Yes to both. It is still a good knife.
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Re: New Manix 2

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mikey177 wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 3:45 am
None of the 3 Manix lightweight variants that I have are drop shut. I actually prefer them that way.
Mr, Mikey, The M2 will be added to my personal Spyderco repertoire. :winking-tongue
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Re: New Manix 2

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ladybug93 wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 5:49 am
mine doesn't drop shut like the g10 versions, but it does spydie flick easily and i only have to flick my wrist lightly to get it to close. i honestly can't remember how tight it was when i got it, but "break-in" only goes so far.
Ladybug, Yes it may or may not break in to the point of dropping free but I still like it. :cheap-sunglasses
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Re: New Manix 2

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mongo1958 wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:28 pm
ladybug93 wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 5:49 am
mine doesn't drop shut like the g10 versions, but it does spydie flick easily and i only have to flick my wrist lightly to get it to close. i honestly can't remember how tight it was when i got it, but "break-in" only goes so far.
Ladybug, Yes it may or may not break in to the point of dropping free but I still like it. :cheap-sunglasses
that's all that matters. i hope my post didn't come across as negative... just trying to help with expectation management. it's no secret that i'm a huge fan of the manix in both configurations. i'm glad you're happy with it because it's a great knife.
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
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Re: New Manix 2

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mongo1958 wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:46 am
Mr. Wartstein,

"Well, I hope you (still) do enjoy your Manix!! If I were you though I´d just keep and enjoy the Manix you have in hand!"

Yes to both. It is still a good knife.

That's a good attitude! :smlling-eyes
My experience says that it will break in not a whole lot, but still a bit.
You could also apply some oil, but just very little (you can't disassemble and whipe off excess oil)
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- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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Re: New Manix 2

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Bolster wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:14 am
IowaGeologist wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:27 am
Converted my SPY 27 to screws and this is what I found after opening up. This knife was pretty lightly used, and kept out pretty clean in my opinion.

Am I following? You're not saying that the knife needed opening for that, are you? Isn't that just a little lubricant I see? I'm not seeing rust or corrosion...but then, I'm not in the room with ya.
Unfortunately, it was a mixture of lube, water, and grime/grit, that picture doesn't really do it justice. Won't say it was incredibly dirty and certainly wasn't a necessity, but dirty enough that I felt much better opening it up and cleaning. Action is noticeably better than just prior to the conversion as well, and I worked on it pretty intensively (prior). Drop shut with exceptional lockup, which wasn't true before. I think that's also a function of being able to tighten down the top body screws by the pivot as well.

Again, I just don't see any downside to the screwed construction. Red Loctite will make them all but permanent if wanted, and for the majority of others that want access it's available.
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Re: New Manix 2

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IowaGeologist wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 3:15 pm
Again, I just don't see any downside to the screwed construction. Red Loctite will make them all but permanent if wanted, and for the majority of others that want access it's available.

Yeah, you make a good point. With Loctite it's not that different from pinned. My perspective is that of a backpacker, and backcountry gear is usually made without screws for the very reason that you don't want a screw coming loose when you're 100 miles out. Backcountry items are often riveted or welded to be "foolproof." But with Loctite, it would seem that screw construction, far from civilization or tools, would not be a concern.
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Re: New Manix 2

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mikey177 wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:59 am
IowaGeologist wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:27 am
Converted my SPY 27 to screws and this is what I found after opening up. This knife was pretty lightly used, and kept out pretty clean in my opinion.

I just don't see why pinned would be preferred over screwed construction. If you're worried about screws backing out (never had that happen personally) there's red Loctite. If you ever happen to need to access the knife for cleaning, heat the screws up to loosen, clean, and throw Loctite back on.

First time I've seen washers like that with a second anchor point. Thanks for the photo.

I wonder what advantage or benefit this type has over plain circular washers?
Just to clarify, these are not the washers. It comes with regular phosphor bronze washers that I took out prior to the photo. These are pieces that house the action. Rivet through smaller one and pivot through the larger.
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Re: New Manix 2

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IowaGeologist wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 7:12 pm
mikey177 wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:59 am
IowaGeologist wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:27 am
Converted my SPY 27 to screws and this is what I found after opening up. This knife was pretty lightly used, and kept out pretty clean in my opinion.

I just don't see why pinned would be preferred over screwed construction. If you're worried about screws backing out (never had that happen personally) there's red Loctite. If you ever happen to need to access the knife for cleaning, heat the screws up to loosen, clean, and throw Loctite back on.

First time I've seen washers like that with a second anchor point. Thanks for the photo.

I wonder what advantage or benefit this type has over plain circular washers?
Just to clarify, these are not the washers. It comes with regular phosphor bronze washers that I took out prior to the photo. These are pieces that house the action. Rivet through smaller one and pivot through the larger.

Ah, I see. Neat. Thanks for the clarification :smlling-eyes
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Re: New Manix 2

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Spy27 Manix keeping me company in the parking lot on a wet Wednesday.
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Re: New Manix 2

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mikey177 wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:29 pm
Spy27 Manix keeping me company in the parking lot on a wet Wednesday. 20230208_132654.jpg
Hey Mikey, how do you like the Spy27?
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Re: New Manix 2

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First carry Day,
This knife is easy to forget that you have it because it is so light.
The clip is unobtrusive and allows me to slide the Manix into my pocket rather easily.
Either the blade has loosened up a bit or I have gotten the hang of the Spyder flick with this knife, maybe a little of both.
I would have liked the locking buttons to stick out a bit more for a better grip.
Any way, this was my take on the Manix 2 Light weight from purchase to carry.
Later
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Re: New Manix 2

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Well, since this seems to become kind of a Manix 2 LW picture thread let me throw the great REX45 variant into the mix...;)
(Old pic)

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- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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Re: New Manix 2

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mongo1958 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:02 am
mikey177 wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:29 pm
Spy27 Manix keeping me company in the parking lot on a wet Wednesday. 20230208_132654.jpg
Hey Mikey, how do you like the Spy27?

It's pretty good. Touches up easily on the Sharpmaker after I use it in the yard. I don't do heavy volume cutting though so I'm not the best person to give a review.

There are Spy27 feedback threads on the forum, such as the ff:

Spy27 First Impression

Spy27 Edge Character

and

CPY Spy27 Edge Performance
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