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What Spyderco knives do you want to see in ceramic

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The ceramic mule is coming soon. Question is, what knives to put it in? A neck knife is a no brained. A sheep’s foot salt boat knife? A ceramic Siren?
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Interesting this question would come up. Because I've wondered for some time about possibly making the C-36 Military offered up with a ceramic blade. I can't think of another model that would be more ideal than that.

In the fixed blade category a ceramic version of the South Fork would be very interesting as well.
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My overall take is that ceramic would not be used for power cutting and more for slicing capability so negative blade angle is not a priority. IMHO it would be well suited for neutral or positive blade angle knives like the SpydieChef or Kapara. I wouldn't be using it for trashbin cardboard for example.
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Ceramic Spydiechef ? Alright that's even more premium than the budget LW version discussed in the other thread, but that'd make perfect sense.

A sheep’s foot salt boat knife as suggested by Fireman would also be right up the alley. The sheep's foot format would lessen the chances of breaking a very pointy blade tip - always a concern with ceramic.
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A small knife like the UKPK or even the Dragonfly probably makes the most sense. Thin, slicey.

I’m not sure that ceramic I tough enough to hold serrations well - this was a problem with ZDP, so I can only imagine it being worse with ceramic
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What happens if you drop one of these things? I’m not seeing the work knife scenario here. I will admit I haven’t been keeping up on the latest developments, so; I’m looking forward to being pleasantly surprised. I’ll let you guys be the guinea pigs on this.
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i can't think of a knife i'd want in ceramic. disposable utility blades maybe, but not a $$$ spyderco.
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Pending assurances that this material won’t shatter on even the slightest impact, I don’t imagine any Spydie I’d want it in.
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I don't have interest in ceramic.
I thought it was un undesirable, chipping and extremely difficult to sharpen.
Unless I'm wrong, I don't see the advantage of ceramic.
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From a production standpoint something like a linerless, washerless slippie like a UKPK might make some sense. For years prior to delving into Spyderco Salts, my corrosion proof knife was a Gerber EAB with replaceable ceramic blades. Too bad Spyderco has a no blade replacement policy if one should shatter.
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I have a knife in the material already. It’s thin and still held up pretty well. The Mule will be thicker and tougher. It could be done on a system where if there is a catastrophic failure, you just have a back up blade to replace in the scales of a fixed or folder or just make them cheap enough to have a few for back up. I will have several mules so in my extreme testing I can break one and then swap scales. The UKPK is a good one to do too. The chef is a must in this material in a lightweight version. I want to see a dive knife for this material as well. There are a few situations where a non metallic knife is needed or better. I want to see what serrated pattern will work best with this material. If you are not going to sharpen it, might as well make it serrated. Being ultra light, it’s no sweat to have this as a back up knife in your pack. With carbon fiber handles you can have a knife that weighs an ounce or two.
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Skar wrote:
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I don't have interest in ceramic.
I thought it was un undesirable, chipping and extremely difficult to sharpen.
Unless I'm wrong, I don't see the advantage of ceramic.
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Forgot to mention that I do have a ceramic paring knife in the kitchen. My Sabatiers make rusty brown apple slices. My ceramic paring knife and peelers don't. :winking-tongue
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I’ll wait for forum reports on the ceramic mule before springing for another ceramic knife. I doubt Spyderco will sell a ceramic folder before it’s reliably tough.
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Skar wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:50 pm
I thought it was un undesirable, chipping and extremely difficult to sharpen.
If you have a very fine diamond stone it's not hard to sharpen. It's different than steel because it doesn't form a burr so I find using alternating edge trailing passes works best. On a 3/2 micron Venev stone I can take it from dull to sharp in a few minutes.

Personally I prefer steel for myself, but it works well as a "family" knife in the kitchen where it gets abused cutting on ceramic plates, glass and sits wet and dirty often.
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None for me. I won't get into my reasons. But humans went from the stone age to the steel age. For good reasons.
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Fireman wrote:
Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:21 pm
The chef is a must in this material in a lightweight version.
Based on what Sal has said in the Spydiechef LW thread, a new Spydichef model would be unlikely.

However, perhaps ceramic blades for the existing Spydiechef could be produced. That'd be more realistic financially speaking. (But... we'd be back to the problem of Spyderco selling parts directly to consumers...)
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None… hasn’t interested me and I have seen them come out when I was a butcher.. they all broke. They were a pain to sharpen…
We called them 1 week knives…good for a week then they were either broken or blunt.

Can see the appeal but not for me.
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The answer is none. With years of skills sharpening knives to a very high degree, and spyderco steel blades able to pass the hanging hair test used for testing straight razors, I see no reason to change to a material that is more fragile. Ive had a couple cermaic kitchen knives. They cut, but with thousands of dollars of steel sharpening equipment, im not looking to change now.


Not to mention fragility of current ceramic blades. Im sure if anyone could make one non fragile it would be spyderco. Look how they made frn handles stronger than steel blades!
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I'm in for the EC MuleTeam! After that I wouldn't know.
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