Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
Hi, I have ordered Yojimbo 2, main purpose EDC, all kind of tasks, self defense comes not so important, though Im interested in art, but hope it never need to be used. So for classic everyday tasks is this Yojimbo 2 good knife or which recommendations would You give me. Truth is, that sometimes streets are scary and only the idea that its in my pocket could give me peace of mind or better confidency. Do You guys suggest different Spyderco, or You are ok with Yojimbo, I wonder, can You share Your experiences? Is it also ment for practice of Kali, Escrima or these southeast Asia martial arts in general, kinda like karambits? In choosing also the name worked for me, as I do really enjoy Yojimbo manga;-) Have a great evening everyone, thanks for helping me to decide, cheers!
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Re: Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
If you just want a wharncliffe blade spyderco has plenty.
I would recomend the endura or delica wharncliffe for general use.
As far as a knife for self defense goes well...
Training matters. If you know what you are doing then the type of knife or stick or whatever doesnt matter as much.
I would recomend the endura or delica wharncliffe for general use.
As far as a knife for self defense goes well...
Training matters. If you know what you are doing then the type of knife or stick or whatever doesnt matter as much.
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Re: Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
The yojimbo can be used in Arnis, Kali, Escrima. The designer Michael Janich has trained in FMA and his system mbc developed partly out of FMA i believe. I have trained in FMA as well and think the blade is good for this style. I myself am drawn into the Pikal style so for defensive work i prefer this type more. But i also carry a Yojumbo as a EDC knife. The knife can be used for every day tasks. You will be pleased with the yojimbo. I have the yojimbo 1 and yojimbo 2. The second is for me a better version. The first had a shorter needle tip blade but a longer handle with a great dimple in it to change from heaven to earth grip. You could use the butt in punjo. The second version of the yojimbo has a stronger longer blade with a sturdier grip but the handle is less useable for punjo and switching between positions. Still one of my favourite knife
Re: Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
Hi Tonbo,
Welcome to our forum.
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Re: Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
welcome!
the yojimbo is a fine knife for edc tasks. as stated already, the knife shouldn't bring you any peace of mind if you don't have training. without training, the idea of the knife in a self-defense scenario should scare you more than give you peace. if you like the knife though, i doubt you'll be disappointed with it. it always makes me think of some samurai that broke his katana and had it fashioned it into a folding knife. that's probably just because of the name, but that's where it takes me.
the yojimbo is a fine knife for edc tasks. as stated already, the knife shouldn't bring you any peace of mind if you don't have training. without training, the idea of the knife in a self-defense scenario should scare you more than give you peace. if you like the knife though, i doubt you'll be disappointed with it. it always makes me think of some samurai that broke his katana and had it fashioned it into a folding knife. that's probably just because of the name, but that's where it takes me.
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current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
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current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
Re: Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
Jim Malone wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:05 pm...The first had a shorter needle tip blade ... The second version of the yojimbo has a stronger longer blade ...
For clarification: are you saying the TIP of the Yo2 is stronger? I was thinking the hollow grind might make the tip of the Yo2 a bit more fragile? Just curious.
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Re: Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
I like the P'kal. But yes a good idea to get a trainer and some training. It's an investment of money and time. If you like the yo2, Janich's martial blade craft is designed for it (or vice versa). If you want to get into reverse edge like the P'kal, shivworks and librefighting are good as well. I carry a P'kal but I'm often asking Spyderco to make their self defense knives a little beefier in the tip and blade, the compression and cbbl locks are the best around though, which is why I carry Spyderco.
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Re: Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
Yes, i don't have my yojimbo 1 in my hands atm but iirc the tip was needle thin. Like scary thin. I did not measure it though. In my opinion it was almost like a folding boxcutter blade.Bolster wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:43 pmJim Malone wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:05 pm...The first had a shorter needle tip blade ... The second version of the yojimbo has a stronger longer blade ...
For clarification: are you saying the TIP of the Yo2 is stronger? I was thinking the hollow grind might make the tip of the Yo2 a bit more fragile? Just curious.
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Re: Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
Hey, All:
Thank you for the question and for chiming in with great answers. You make my job a lot easier!
I designed the Yojimbo 2 for maximum cutting effect on soft tissue, while keeping its size convenient and legal to carry. The Wharncliffe blade shape also works great for cutting-oriented EDC tasks. People use knives in very different ways. If your EDC use includes prying or pulling staples, choose another knife or--even better--buy a knife and a pocket pry tool and use them each appropriately.
Finally, as wisely noted by the other posters here, without training, carrying a knife for self-defense is useless.
Stay safe,
Mike
Thank you for the question and for chiming in with great answers. You make my job a lot easier!
I designed the Yojimbo 2 for maximum cutting effect on soft tissue, while keeping its size convenient and legal to carry. The Wharncliffe blade shape also works great for cutting-oriented EDC tasks. People use knives in very different ways. If your EDC use includes prying or pulling staples, choose another knife or--even better--buy a knife and a pocket pry tool and use them each appropriately.
Finally, as wisely noted by the other posters here, without training, carrying a knife for self-defense is useless.
Stay safe,
Mike
Re: Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
I picked one up in Cru-wear last week I think it's a fetching knife and I love wharnies for daily tasks. The Ergos on the handle are excellent. Also I'm a sucker for Hollow Grinds and its got the best detentive ever had on any SpyderCo.
As for EDC the Pm2 Wharncliffe is pretty great as well
As far as Self Defense I'm under no illusion that without training de-escalation is pretty much a universally better option. That said I do a fair bit of hiking and walking the dogs on trails. I've come across a few sketchy situations none of which thus far would have been improved by drawing a knife. It's still nice to know you have one though.
I keep my dogs leashed but we've experienced situations where others do not. Turning the corner on a single track trail and seeing a large 100+lb dog, alone without its owner can be slightly unnerving.
I love dogs and am pretty good at reading their body language. That said Ive got 2 smaller dogs that I'd like to not get eaten. I've always heard a finger up the Bum is the best way to break up a dog fight. So if I got to keep a big dog from mauling mine I'm gonna stick my left thumb up it's bum.... if it bites my left or won't stop I'll use my right to pull my spyder. (Hopefully never)
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As for EDC the Pm2 Wharncliffe is pretty great as well
As far as Self Defense I'm under no illusion that without training de-escalation is pretty much a universally better option. That said I do a fair bit of hiking and walking the dogs on trails. I've come across a few sketchy situations none of which thus far would have been improved by drawing a knife. It's still nice to know you have one though.
I keep my dogs leashed but we've experienced situations where others do not. Turning the corner on a single track trail and seeing a large 100+lb dog, alone without its owner can be slightly unnerving.
I love dogs and am pretty good at reading their body language. That said Ive got 2 smaller dogs that I'd like to not get eaten. I've always heard a finger up the Bum is the best way to break up a dog fight. So if I got to keep a big dog from mauling mine I'm gonna stick my left thumb up it's bum.... if it bites my left or won't stop I'll use my right to pull my spyder. (Hopefully never)
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Re: Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
So Ive heard this enough to assume there must be some truth to it but I wouldnt do it.
There are some ways to fight a dog if you have to.
Watch what works as well. I have seen a lot of videos of dogs attacking other dogs or other people where someone else gets involved to stop the attacking dog. Pretty much universally, choking the dog out works. Ive never seen a video of someone trying to do the finger thing. I dont know if the lifting the hind legs works as well but I wouldnt go for it. There are some videos of pit bulls getting hit in the head while locked onto something and still not letting go. Put that thing to sleep.
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Re: Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
For me I have a Yojimbo 2 in M4 and it is excellent for EDC. The edge is actually thinner than my Para 2s were from the factory, and the hollow grind makes the tip and front part of the blade very efficient cutters compared to most production knives. I just got an S90V Yojumbo and it is also just as thin at the edge as the Yojimbo 2, even with a 1” longer blade. So I really like them for EDC due to their good cutting ability. For self defense I have better means, but if you needed to use a Yojimbo for self defense it would do extremely well if you use the techniques it is designed for.
Re: Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
Re: Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
When I was a kid I was told to kick the dog as hard as I could just behind the rib cage, kidney shot. Luckily I have never had to try it. I think the finger trick would be a last resort kind of thing. lol
Re: Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
Bk.Obamah wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:56 pmI love dogs and am pretty good at reading their body language. That said Ive got 2 smaller dogs that I'd like to not get eaten. I've always heard a finger up the Bum is the best way to break up a dog fight. So if I got to keep a big dog from mauling mine I'm gonna stick my left thumb up it's bum.... if it bites my left or won't stop I'll use my right to pull my spyder. (Hopefully never)
Interesting .... & unexpected.
I love and own dogs too, but...It was actually dogs that got me carrying a knife...three Rottweilers, to be precise. Never want to be in that situation again...thankfully none of us (3 dogs or 2 people, one of the two people being pregnant) were harmed...but it was a close call and I learned a hard lesson about walking around with empty pockets.
Not to derail the thread onto dog butts...but the Bum trick must be hokum. Have you seen how fast dog butts move around in a fight? That would be like trying to thread a needle while riding on a rollercoaster.
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Your not to derail disclaimer man, got me.
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Re: Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
so... the yojimbo... here's a pic to help get us back on track.
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
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Re: Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
The yojimbo is a great edc. I use mine regularly for all different tasks most general cutting stuff and now and then some wood carving for fun and it performs very wel.
I even like it more then the pm2 in use.
I even like it more then the pm2 in use.
Re: Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
The Yojimbo 2 is one of those few designs that I still would like to get…maybe…sometime in the future. I like Wharncliffe blades a lot; some tasks are more easily accomplished with a straight edge. I wonder if it’ll ever come out in Magnacut?
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Re: Yojimbo 2 - few important questions
Appreciate the redirect, but that's not a REAL Yojimbo, now is it? There's nothing smurfy about it. Here's a REAL Yojimbo...found it on my miter saw table...
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