I think it would even make sharpening difficult on a non-guided system since you'd have to hold it at a weird angle.Coastal wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:35 pmIn my case, that's probably true.
But I have to say, the plunge line is the only thing keeping me from being EXCITED about this knife. And the only reason I care about the plunge line is what nerdlock pointed out: it might make sharpening difficult with a guided system, which is what I like to use.
All that said, I'll probably buy one anyway because otherwise it's very appealing, the sharpening system may be a non-issue, and the Sharpmaker does a fine job if it comes to that.
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in the smkw video, it was compared to the roadie blade shape. i think that's a good comparison. the roadie is a really great little knife too. it's a very small knife that manages to offer a full grip. a slightly larger fb version sounds great to me.
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C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
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Haven’t seen the video in question, but that was my initial thought as well. Very similar vibe to the Roadie
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And the Roadie is not a drop point either. I liken this to the Pingo myself but just unsure why they didn’t go with Sheepsfoot
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Its a nice small knife, design looks good.....sins first look its on the list for 2023
And has 2 extra bonuspoints, Spyderco en dutch design
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Need more Spydercos in the blade shape.
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I like how the Bowie looks, but since its a flat saber grind I'll definitely buy the "Drop point" (which looks a lot like a sheepsfoot to me too )
It is listed at 80€ on Lamnia, a bit higher than I'd want, but still correct (especially once I'll have made scales for it)
It is listed at 80€ on Lamnia, a bit higher than I'd want, but still correct (especially once I'll have made scales for it)
In the collection : Lots of different steels, in lots of different (and same) Spydercos.
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just be aware they said there's an adhesive holding the scales on also. i was thinking about removing them to acid wash the blade, but i'm not sure it'll be easy.Ramonade wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:30 amI like how the Bowie looks, but since its a flat saber grind I'll definitely buy the "Drop point" (which looks a lot like a sheepsfoot to me too )
It is listed at 80€ on Lamnia, a bit higher than I'd want, but still correct (especially once I'll have made scales for it)
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
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Oh, shoot. I just hope I can salvage the hardware ^^ If I have to cut through the rest, well that's not that big of an issue. Thanks for the heads up LB.ladybug93 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:43 amjust be aware they said there's an adhesive holding the scales on also. i was thinking about removing them to acid wash the blade, but i'm not sure it'll be easy.Ramonade wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:30 amI like how the Bowie looks, but since its a flat saber grind I'll definitely buy the "Drop point" (which looks a lot like a sheepsfoot to me too )
It is listed at 80€ on Lamnia, a bit higher than I'd want, but still correct (especially once I'll have made scales for it)
In the collection : Lots of different steels, in lots of different (and same) Spydercos.
Robin. Finally made an IG : ramo_knives
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The hyperbole is all yours because no one said anything like that except you. I’ll note for the future that Morakniv is a sensitive subject around here.Cl1ff wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:12 pmGuys, we should all buy a Mora and never get another knife. Toss out all the knives you already have too, because you won't be needing them anymore...
If i didn't know any better, I'd think a Morakniv knife could take on infinite forms with the number of times I've seen them compared to other, completely different, knives.
There's room and there's a desire for Moras and Stoks, and G3s apparently. All of which are quite different to me.
Enjoy your Stok.
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nope. moras are really great. actually, that's part of why i'm here... before caring about better folders, i was chasing fixed blades for the outdoors. i couldn't bring myself to pay for a ltwk genesis when a mora was so good and cheap and lightweight. paying more for folders made more sense to me because there's more engineering involved, so i'm here spending more on folders and happy to carry a mora outdoors. although i do carry an esee jg5, esee xancudo, or my magnacut mule more often these days.
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
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“in a world where mora exists there’s no reason for the stok” I think was where you went a bit far in your judgement, because they’re very very different knives that will excel in different sorts of applications. so it kinda is taking your preferences to a mora fixed blade to an extreme. The market having room for variety shouldn’t be a bad thing. Just my 2 cents
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Count me as another one that loves Morakniv products, I just haven’t bought any in years. Will probably change that soon, as I’ve literally been looking at Moras for the past few weeks to try to convince myself to buy some more because they’re so affordable and my experience with them has been positive.
Even if I do that, I still plan to purchase at least one of these Stoks. Its a Spyderco and I like the design - that’s enough justification for me.
Even if I do that, I still plan to purchase at least one of these Stoks. Its a Spyderco and I like the design - that’s enough justification for me.
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i have a companion, robust, kansbol, and eldris. i've carried and used them all and haven't come close to hurting them. i even left the carbon steel wet and it's got some corrosion in one spot, but it's absolutely good to go. they are excellent knives and an even better value for a knife you don't have to care about abusing or losing that's always ready to excel outside.Mushroom wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:09 pmCount me as another one that loves Morakniv products, I just haven’t bought any in years. Will probably change that soon, as I’ve literally been looking at Moras for the past few weeks to try to convince myself to buy some more because they’re so affordable and my experience with them has been positive.
Even if I do that, I still plan to purchase at least one of these Stoks. Its a Spyderco and I like the design - that’s enough justification for me.
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
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Like I said, there’s room for all.
I knew that even the most obvious bit of sarcasm would be construed as me being sensitive or something, but these things don’t actually upset me.
I could elaborate about how my apparent hyperboles are just the next logical step, and that the second highlighted bit is no more than a genuine observation.
How, somewhat ironically, the unhighlighted part was also sarcastically highlighting the inconsistency in a coupled logic that “there’s no need for a Stok when we have Mora” and “I wouldn’t buy a Stok because it’s inferior to my G3 and Chris Reeve”.
Not because I think this “invalidates” your opinion, it’s just an observation that I sarcastically commented on.
Maybe that last bit of my comment was too agreeable and subtle, relative to the rest (which was admittedly a little dramatic), to get highlighted.
Anyway, I think Moras are great.
There are more ways to compare knives than being surprised some of the market thinks positively of their mutual existence. To reiterate, though, I comment because I hold a different opinion, not because I’m upset about yours. That seems to be misunderstood about a lot of comments on the forum.
For example, we can look at the much slimmer profiles and widths of the Stoks, which helps those who’d want to EDC them. Moras are more hand filling and better for prolonged uses such as bushcrafting.
Or their more modern, maybe artistic, style that some may prefer over the decidedly “traditional tool” vibes of Morakniv knives, and vice versa.
The different grinds will each have their own advantages, which I think is a big reason why there’s two blades for the Stoks.
The sheaths are maybe one of the biggest selling points of the Stoks, to me. My Boltaron sheaths are generally excellent, especially for carry compared to most leather or injection molded sheaths.
I knew that even the most obvious bit of sarcasm would be construed as me being sensitive or something, but these things don’t actually upset me.
I could elaborate about how my apparent hyperboles are just the next logical step, and that the second highlighted bit is no more than a genuine observation.
How, somewhat ironically, the unhighlighted part was also sarcastically highlighting the inconsistency in a coupled logic that “there’s no need for a Stok when we have Mora” and “I wouldn’t buy a Stok because it’s inferior to my G3 and Chris Reeve”.
Not because I think this “invalidates” your opinion, it’s just an observation that I sarcastically commented on.
Maybe that last bit of my comment was too agreeable and subtle, relative to the rest (which was admittedly a little dramatic), to get highlighted.
Anyway, I think Moras are great.
There are more ways to compare knives than being surprised some of the market thinks positively of their mutual existence. To reiterate, though, I comment because I hold a different opinion, not because I’m upset about yours. That seems to be misunderstood about a lot of comments on the forum.
For example, we can look at the much slimmer profiles and widths of the Stoks, which helps those who’d want to EDC them. Moras are more hand filling and better for prolonged uses such as bushcrafting.
Or their more modern, maybe artistic, style that some may prefer over the decidedly “traditional tool” vibes of Morakniv knives, and vice versa.
The different grinds will each have their own advantages, which I think is a big reason why there’s two blades for the Stoks.
The sheaths are maybe one of the biggest selling points of the Stoks, to me. My Boltaron sheaths are generally excellent, especially for carry compared to most leather or injection molded sheaths.
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i'm really kind of excited to see how such thin blade stock holds up on a small fixed blade for light carving and camp chores, especially in 8cr13mov, which i think may be an interesting choice for outdoor use.
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current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
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Re: stok drop point
Well these are made in China so the adhesive may not “adhere” to a Tier 1 levelladybug93 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:43 amjust be aware they said there's an adhesive holding the scales on also. i was thinking about removing them to acid wash the blade, but i'm not sure it'll be easy.Ramonade wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:30 amI like how the Bowie looks, but since its a flat saber grind I'll definitely buy the "Drop point" (which looks a lot like a sheepsfoot to me too )
It is listed at 80€ on Lamnia, a bit higher than I'd want, but still correct (especially once I'll have made scales for it)
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Seems like these will be available soon. In the SMKW video, Eric was asked when we might see these. He said "Very soon. They're already in. We're just finalizing the sheaths."
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one word... swick.BornIn1500 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:13 pmSeems like these will be available soon. In the SMKW video, Eric was asked when we might see these. He said "Very soon. They're already in. We're just finalizing the sheaths."
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
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I have a Robust that’s been through **** and it now proudly sports a coating of rust like a battle scar. I would beat on it just to see what it could handle and it has always impressed me. It’s part of the reason I want to buy more knives from the brand. I’d like to try a Garberg and have wanted to try an Edlris since they were first introduced. I’m well aware of how easily attainable their knives are too, I just haven’t been able to pull the trigger over another Spyderco.ladybug93 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:22 pmi have a companion, robust, kansbol, and eldris. i've carried and used them all and haven't come close to hurting them. i even left the carbon steel wet and it's got some corrosion in one spot, but it's absolutely good to go. they are excellent knives and an even better value for a knife you don't have to care about abusing or losing that's always ready to excel outside.Mushroom wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:09 pmCount me as another one that loves Morakniv products, I just haven’t bought any in years. Will probably change that soon, as I’ve literally been looking at Moras for the past few weeks to try to convince myself to buy some more because they’re so affordable and my experience with them has been positive.
Even if I do that, I still plan to purchase at least one of these Stoks. Its a Spyderco and I like the design - that’s enough justification for me.
And I agree about the Stok sheaths. After what has gone on with the Swick 5 and Swick 6, it’s difficult to believe waiting on sheaths will be a quick prospect anymore.
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