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Re: stok drop point

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The K390 Enuff 2 is a lot more appealing to me, but I do like that Spyderco is doing more edc fixed blades.
I'm happiest with Micarta and Tool Steel.

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If you look at Spyderco website under their "blade shapes", it is NOT A DROP POINT.

But is a Sheepsfoot blade.

https://www.spyderco.com/edge-u-cation/ ... de-shapes/
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This reminds me of a Grohmann Canadian Belt Knife. I will get one for sure.
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The primary knife I carry and use is a neck knife and this sure looks like a great design. It does have a similar pattern as a Canadian Belt Knife, something I've had a slight interest in trying out.

I'm happy with 8Cr13MoV, but I imagine if this does well, they may offer it in S35VN. It could be a good model for sprints/exclusives, too.

Really looking forward to this one 👍
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s35vn would be great!
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These are SCREAMING for the Cru-carta treatment. They would be huge sellers if they could pull that off at $100 or less in my opinion. I'd be all over them.
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steelcity16 wrote:
Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:13 pm
These are SCREAMING for the Cru-carta treatment. They would be huge sellers if they could pull that off at $100 or less in my opinion. I'd be all over them.
While I usually support the “Crucarta them all” approach, I actually think that G-10 is the better option for this use case. G-10 is grippier is most conditions, and these are EDC knives, not Bushcraft knives. I’d say that avoiding hot spots is less important than a sure grip in this case.

Now, I’d love a Crucarta Bow River, Bushcrafter, or Proficient.
I'm happiest with Micarta and Tool Steel.

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Looking at these on the Eric shot show BHQ video…they have supper slim profile scales. Probably 0.125
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Really no need for it, but for $70...why not?? Love me a sheepsfoot, and wouldn't mind a 3rd small fixed blade just for the heck of it. See how Spyderco's 8cr is vs some of the others I've had in the past from other companies.
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TkoK83Spy wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:55 am
Really no need for it, but for $70...why not?? Love me a sheepsfoot, and wouldn't mind a 3rd small fixed blade just for the heck of it. See how Spyderco's 8cr is vs some of the others I've had in the past from other companies.
don't expect it to be magic or anything, but my resilience is noticeably better than 8cr13mov i've experienced from other companies.

i also don't need one of these, but i'll probably get the sheepsfoot just to try it out.
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I sometimes feel very disconnected from the mainstream, so I shouldn't be so surprised at the positive response to this knife. But, I am. Anyway, in a world that still has Morakniv, I can find no need for one of these.
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JRinFL wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:37 am
I sometimes feel very disconnected from the mainstream, so I shouldn't be so surprised at the positive response to this knife. But, I am. Anyway, in a world that still has Morakniv, I can find no need for one of these.
That blade shape is VERY Guardian3 sheepsfoot and CRK Insingo like...hard to pass up for that price!
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TkoK83Spy wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:52 am
JRinFL wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:37 am
I sometimes feel very disconnected from the mainstream, so I shouldn't be so surprised at the positive response to this knife. But, I am. Anyway, in a world that still has Morakniv, I can find no need for one of these.
That blade shape is VERY Guardian3 sheepsfoot and CRK Insingo like...hard to pass up for that price!
A already have a G3 and Insingo, so buying a greatly inferior version holds no interest for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

More fixed blades from Spyderco is a good thing overall.
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Re: stok drop point

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JRinFL wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:59 am
TkoK83Spy wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:52 am
JRinFL wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:37 am
I sometimes feel very disconnected from the mainstream, so I shouldn't be so surprised at the positive response to this knife. But, I am. Anyway, in a world that still has Morakniv, I can find no need for one of these.
That blade shape is VERY Guardian3 sheepsfoot and CRK Insingo like...hard to pass up for that price!
A already have a G3 and Insingo, so buying a greatly inferior version holds no interest for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

More fixed blades from Spyderco is a good thing overall.

A couple things that have dissuaded me so far from buying a G3 are the lack of a real guard for your index finger and high prices. The Stok addresses both of those complaints and is overall smaller and easier to carry -- not really the same design intent as the Guardians.

I haven't seen anything from Mora that would compete with this. The closest would be the Eldris, but it's chunky and awkward and has an an inferior sheath, IMO. Very different designs.

For me, the positive response to this knife is due to it being a small, more affordable edc fixed blade with a good, versatile sheath -- something very underrepresented in Spyderco's catalog.
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JRinFL wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:37 am
I sometimes feel very disconnected from the mainstream, so I shouldn't be so surprised at the positive response to this knife. But, I am. Anyway, in a world that still has Morakniv, I can find no need for one of these.
While I don’t see these filling the same needs as my Moras or vice versa, I too am a bit surprised by the positive response. But then again, I’m also quite used to having preferences that deviate from the mainstream.

I like how thin they’ve made the knife, scales and the whole package with the sheath. I’m in with all of that, but there’s just something with the overall handle shape and disposition of usable blade vs handle real estate that doesn’t quite jive with me. Especially for the EDC role I can visualize this knife in.

The plunge grind is definitely part of that assessment. I’m generally not a fan of Spyderco putting holes in their fixed blades, and if they did that design choice just to have the hole, I’m less than impressed.
The hole in my Waterway is probably the only thing I don’t like about that knife, and it’s a totally unnecessary feature that just adds production cost (however slight).
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This knife begs for a regrind to make the plunge line vertical and maximize the potential of the thin bladestok. But then it's a $200 knife.
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i think you guys might be overthinking it. it's a budget, small fixed blade with a spyder on it. if that's not enough, there are others to choose from. if it is enough, now it exists.

i do think the plunge grind is strange, as i've said, but for the kind of role i imagine this is meant for, i can't see it being a real issue.
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ladybug93 wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:35 pm
i think you guys might be overthinking it.
In my case, that's probably true.

But I have to say, the plunge line is the only thing keeping me from being EXCITED about this knife. And the only reason I care about the plunge line is what nerdlock pointed out: it might make sharpening difficult with a guided system, which is what I like to use.

All that said, I'll probably buy one anyway because otherwise it's very appealing, the sharpening system may be a non-issue, and the Sharpmaker does a fine job if it comes to that.

2.5mm bladestock is almost irresistable!
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and 8cr touches up really easily on the sm.
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C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
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Guys, we should all buy a Mora and never get another knife. Toss out all the knives you already have too, because you won't be needing them anymore...

If i didn't know any better, I'd think a Morakniv knife could take on infinite forms with the number of times I've seen them compared to other, completely different, knives.

There's room and there's a desire for Moras and Stoks, and G3s apparently. All of which are quite different to me.
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