Stretch 2 XL in grey G10 and CruWear steel!

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Had I known this was coming, I'd have not purchased a second Ayoob. Mostly due to Abbazaa's picture. Ha, no, but maybe...
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If this was out at the same time as the G10 police, I'm not sure which direction I would have gone
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This might be my most anticipated Spyderco of this year. I really really love the full liner G-10 models. I’ve been checking knife retailers’ websites daily. I can’t wait!!!
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Me too CJK! I keep looking at the regulars waiting for it to pop up.
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I would not be surprised if they drop after Monday. How can one obscure dealer ( no disrespect ) have a small batch and not major dealers elsewhere? This makes no sense to me other than dealers holding on to a Golden Goose . MG2
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I think you are right Dan. I can only imagine these will sell fast until the newness wears off. They would be leaving money on the table to sell them at a discount out the gate if they got mixed up in these Black Friday deals.
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JSumm wrote:
Fri Nov 25, 2022 5:20 pm
I think you are right Dan. I can only imagine these will sell fast until the newness wears off. They would be leaving money on the table to sell them at a discount out the gate if they got mixed up in these Black Friday deals.
If true, that’s a shame. If dealers and Spyderco want to move some product and get this new model into more hands, put them up now into these weekend sales.
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Well, I'd love the CruWear but not so much the weight or price. So, got me another FRN on the way for $75. Thanks Black Friday!
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Manixguy@1994 wrote:
Fri Nov 25, 2022 5:16 pm
I would not be surprised if they drop after Monday. How can one obscure dealer ( no disrespect ) have a small batch and not major dealers elsewhere? This makes no sense to me other than dealers holding on to a Golden Goose . MG2
My wild guess is that there was supposed to be some sort of "do not sell until date" or release date on those, but the obscure dealer either ignored it or goofed it up.
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I sold my FRN version to help rationalize spending big money on the G10 version, but at only $75 today I really hope anyone that has been tempted to try this knife picked up the standard FRN today, CHEAP!
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cjk wrote:
Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:30 pm
Manixguy@1994 wrote:
Fri Nov 25, 2022 5:16 pm
I would not be surprised if they drop after Monday. How can one obscure dealer ( no disrespect ) have a small batch and not major dealers elsewhere? This makes no sense to me other than dealers holding on to a Golden Goose . MG2
My wild guess is that there was supposed to be some sort of "do not sell until date" or release date on those, but the obscure dealer either ignored it or goofed it up.
That is another possibility, Whatever the reason I am not faulting anyone . Everyone needs to keep the lights on and food on the table . MG2
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You guys are killin' me. I thought, "Ooooh... I'm gonna get in on the Black Friday sales, and bag me this sweet knife." Alas, it's not available yet, and the preorders aren't giving discounts. Ugh.
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What makes this knife so much more expensive than the ayoob?
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Does anyone have both the Cruwear and the Lightweight?

I see the technical description says 2.7oz for the lightweight, and 4.6oz for the Cruwear. That’s nearly twice the weight if you round up.

The first LW users were impressed by the knife’s apparent weightlessness, which is a feeling I get with my Military. The Millie weighs in at 4.5oz, and the Native Chief only 3.9oz.

I wonder if the Cruwear model feels light in hand, at least as much as the Military does? Can you feel the difference between it and the Lightweight model?
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kennethsime wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:02 pm
Does anyone have both the Cruwear and the Lightweight?

I see the technical description says 2.7oz for the lightweight, and 4.6oz for the Cruwear. That’s nearly twice the weight if you round up.

The first LW users were impressed by the knife’s apparent weightlessness, which is a feeling I get with my Military. The Millie weighs in at 4.5oz, and the Native Chief only 3.9oz.

I wonder if the Cruwear model feels light in hand, at least as much as the Military does? Can you feel the difference between it and the Lightweight model?
Ayoob weight is 4.9 so this also may give an idea as far as in hand . Dan
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kennethsime wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:02 pm
Does anyone have both the Cruwear and the Lightweight?

I see the technical description says 2.7oz for the lightweight, and 4.6oz for the Cruwear. That’s nearly twice the weight if you round up.

The first LW users were impressed by the knife’s apparent weightlessness, which is a feeling I get with my Military. The Millie weighs in at 4.5oz, and the Native Chief only 3.9oz.

I wonder if the Cruwear model feels light in hand, at least as much as the Military does? Can you feel the difference between it and the Lightweight model?
The FRN version is silly light, confusingly light the first time you hold it. Your brain will question reality... But with all the weight out front, it has the balance of a machete in comparison. The linerless scales also have the flex you would imagine, think Bugout XXL. This of course has its benefits and it's an amazing knife to use and carry.

The G10 version is solid and feels appropriately weighty in hand, but has the weight hanging off the opposite end because of the steel backspacer. The balance is much further back than the Military, which arguably has a better balance in hand. For me, this makes the Military feel lighter, even if it's the same weight because the weight distribution is so much more neutral.

FWIW, the G10 is 4.6oz on my scale

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abbazaba wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:48 pm
The FRN version is silly light, confusingly light the first time you hold it. Your brain will question reality... But with all the weight out front, it has the balance of a machete in comparison. The linerless scales also have the flex you would imagine, think Bugout XXL. This of course has its benefits and it's an amazing knife to use and carry.

The G10 version is solid and feels appropriately weighty in hand, but has the weight hanging off the opposite end because of the steel backspacer. The balance is much further back than the Military, which arguably has a better balance in hand. For me, this makes the Military feel lighter, even if it's the same weight because the weight distribution is so much more neutral.

FWIW, the G10 is 4.6oz on my scale.

Also, may as well use this opportunity to add another enabler picture from today's hike ;)
Thanks very much, abbazabba. I can’t wait to get my hands on one (and some custom micarta scales).
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balance of a machete? hardly. my stretch xl in frn balances right on my index finger.

My scales barely flex inwards if I death grip the knife, but don't flex when using it to cut things. They're very stiff during actual use for a linerless lightweight.

There's a huge difference in weight between the two. it's definitely going to be noticeable.
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vivi wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:55 pm
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balance of a machete? hardly. my stretch xl in frn balances right on my index finger.

My scales barely flex inwards if I death grip the knife, but don't flex when using it to cut things. They're very stiff during actual use for a linerless lightweight.

There's a huge difference in weight between the two. it's definitely going to be noticeable.
I would have to echo Vivi here. The frn version initially felt freakishly light and my brain was telling me it must be flimsy. After having a chance to give it some serious use I can say I feel no flex, it is nicely balanced and it feels more solid than the similar LC200N Pac Salt 2. Mine also has very solid lockup and less lock rock than any other Seki lockbacks I own, which is quite a few. It sort of feels like a CQI version of a Seki lockback.

I like it so much that I think I will forgo the G10 one and wait for some more steels in the frn version. I would really like one in K390 and a Salt version in Magnacut. It's funny that balance was mentioned because for me this feels way better in hand than my G10 Endura or Police 3 which are both too handle heavy.

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My FRN S2XL SE arrived this morning and I haven't opened it yet. I actually forgot about the G10/Cruwear variant until I logged on just now, but man do I want one asap!
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