Native 5 salt is Magnacut?

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Native 5 salt is Magnacut?

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Can anyone tell me if this is an early April Fools???!
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If it's already in LC200N, Magnacut doesn't appear to have much of a difference. It's going to be the new hot steel, I'm sure it will find MANY models over the next couple years.
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Looks like Evil D is going to get some serrated magnacut next year :winking-tongue
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This is great news! I hope MagnaCut is cheap and widely available. I hate to change the subject, but I hope the StreetBeat is available in MagnaCut. I'll buy one of each, a Native 5 and a Street Beat.
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Just think how fast the Salt Native will go ! Going to be a madhouse and fun ! MG2
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Very exciting! It is an amazing time to be a knife enthusiast.
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I’m glad that Magnacut is considered a salt steel by Spyderco—I hope that means it’s as corrosion resistant as LC200n. I’ve rusted everything short of that (including 20cv) just sitting in my sweaty pocket, so I’m hoping Magnacut will live up to the hype.
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i like my native salt, but i find it to be a little too thick to be enjoyable to use. i would've rather seen magnacut go into almost anything else, besides a shaman. that said, i know a lot of people like the native, so i imagine this one will be extremely popular.
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Kind of a bummer that it doesn't appear to have a cool logo like LC200N or H1. While I typically dislike blade markings, I really enjoy those logos on my Salt blades!
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Bold move to put MagnaCut in the Salt line, if this holds true! But I'm happy to see it in a Native, anyway.
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JakeXman wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:19 pm
Looks like Evil D is going to get some serrated magnacut next year :winking-tongue


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CALLED IT :self hi-five:

Now I'm curious - this is obviously an endorsement on par with H1 and LC200N. Larrin had ranked his own design below those two in stainlessness on the original post, & equated it with Vanax IIRC. Spyderco obviously has done quite a bit of testing. I'd love to know what they found, esp. the comparative results regarding when it's possible to get these steels rusting. For someone who tends to appreciate "semi" stainless steels ala cruwear, I am fascinated by the freakishly stainless ones. Has anyone run thorough or even controlled comparisons across these four?
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ladybug93 wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:44 pm
i like my native salt, but i find it to be a little too thick to be enjoyable to use. i would've rather seen magnacut go into almost anything else, besides a shaman. that said, i know a lot of people like the native, so i imagine this one will be extremely popular.
I quite agree. Not my most anticipated magnacut model, so I’ll probably skip this one. Magnacut is probably a better fit for the way I use my N5S, but probably not enough to justify the bath I’ll suffer to replace it.

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Ugh, another one I will HAVE to get! When will it end, lol.
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This is great news IMO! Magnacut will provide 95% of the corrosion resistance of LC200N (not likely to be a discernible difference) while it brings edge retention up by about 50%. This brings the "Salt" Native edge retention up to basically equal with an S30V Native. Additionally, the fine carbide size and consistent carbide distribution combined with the added hardness that Magnacut offers over LC200N will also bring additional overall edge stability, on top of pure wear resistance. To me this is exciting news and a HUGE improvement.
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z1r wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:36 pm
Ugh, another one I will HAVE to get! When will it end, lol.
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JakeXman wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:41 pm
I’m glad that Magnacut is considered a salt steel by Spyderco—I hope that means it’s as corrosion resistant as LC200n. I’ve rusted everything short of that (including 20cv) just sitting in my sweaty pocket, so I’m hoping Magnacut will live up to the hype.
I think I know someone who can test whether Magnacut is salt worthy or not :squinting-tongue
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bleasure wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:20 pm
CALLED IT :self hi-five:

Now I'm curious - this is obviously an endorsement on par with H1 and LC200N. Larrin had ranked his own design below those two in stainlessness on the original post, & equated it with Vanax IIRC. Spyderco obviously has done quite a bit of testing. I'd love to know what they found, esp. the comparative results regarding when it's possible to get these steels rusting. For someone who tends to appreciate "semi" stainless steels ala cruwear, I am fascinated by the freakishly stainless ones. Has anyone run thorough or even controlled comparisons across these four?


Whether LC or MagnaCut are truely 100% RUST PROOF like H1 is, will probably be an ongoing argument for years to come, but I'm betting that for most people who work in salt water environments who actually use their knives for a job where edge retention is just as important as corrosion resistance, the added edge retention will likely be a fair tradeoff for a steel that's only 95% rust proof.

It's funny because we're getting to a point where corrosion resistance is a debatable topic like edge retention already is. A guy may be just fine with H1's edge retention even if it only lasts him one single day and he has to sharpen it at the end of the day, and in the exact same way the next guy may be totally fine with MagnaCut's corrosion resistance if it will make it through an entire day of working in salt water and all he needs to do is rinse the knife out at the end of the day to keep it rust free.
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my h1 pacifics can hold a useable edge for over a month though ;)
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steelcity16 wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:45 pm
Kind of a bummer that it doesn't appear to have a cool logo like LC200N or H1. While I typically dislike blade markings, I really enjoy those logos on my Salt blades!
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