My first Native 5 is the SPY27. It's excellent as well!CrustyOtter wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:06 pmSame here, both knives are outstanding. I've been tempted to get the SPY27 N5 as well but something else always comes up. Still wish it was possible to swap scales to micarta but other than that, I'm more than pleased. I love the leaf blades.
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Exactly, the Spy27 N5 is equally impressive. Mine is special to me as it was a gift from my wife and son. Sharpens nicely!
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Got my plain edge Magnacut Native in the mail today, I've been Native-less for around a year now and I'm very pleased to have it in my rotation again. I took off the clip until I pick up an aftermarket deep carry. This thing is gonna be my go to work knife in the kitchen, won't have to worry about getting it wet or dirty.
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This has been a not so great week for me, but getting a MagnaCut Native in hand has been a bright spot. Hoping to do a reprofile tonight or tomorrow.
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Glad there's a bright spot in your week! You WILL enjoy!Wandering_About wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:19 amThis has been a not so great week for me, but getting a MagnaCut Native in hand has been a bright spot. Hoping to do a reprofile tonight or tomorrow.
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My LC200N Native is absolutely green with envy now that it's got some sweet Magnacut competition!! Gotta love that factory razor sharp edge too.
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Out of curiosity, why would you not have a dedicated kitchen knife in the kitchen? something like an 8" chef, or 165mm Santoku or Bunka in stainless Gingami (aka G3, or Silver3?). or if you only want a small knife, a 120 or 130mm petty in G3 or Blue2 san mai? All of those can be had for about the same price, give $20 or take $40, as the Native 5 Magnacut folder.
I use 165mm Gihei Santoku in Blue2, 120mm tall petty also in Blue2, 90mm petty in VG10 ... but if Magnacut had been around 5 years ago, I wouldn't own anything other than 1 forged Blue 2 by a craftsman, just to honor traditional knifemaking, everything else would be Magnacut from a factory. I think we will see lots of Magnacut kitchen knife options popping up over the next five years, from at least. a dozen factories.
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The Native will be used for anything non edible I need to cut while working in the restaurant. Tape, cardboard, old mop heads, rice bags, wax paper etc. There's a lot of things to cut in the kitchen that I would never use my chef knife for. I do use Miyabi gyutos and a Shun paring knife, as well as a Forchner Chinese cleaver for food processing. My newest chef knife is the Murray Carter gyuto I bought during the epic Black Friday sales last year. It got a patina as soon as I started using it, the knife is a beast.
I do look forward to picking up a Magnacut culinary blade at some point.
Also, I cut some lemons and such with the Native yesterday and it felt great to not have to worry about cleaning it right away.
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I own a Meglio Knives 8” Gyuuto in magna-cut. It’s from a small maker, but I really just wanted one nice chef knife. I think Magna-Cut might be a bit hard to grind to end up in anything but fairly high end kitchen knives.
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Nice dye job! How much do you think the original yellow affected the end color? I know about where I want to end up, just not sure if I should compensate for the yellow affect.
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My LynchNW clip was delivered this morning. I usually go with the blacksmith finish when matching black hardware but they happened to have black Cerakote clips available so I ordered that instead, thinking it should be more corrosion/sweat resistant. Guess I'll start giving it an edc test run for a week or so.Bdubs808 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 2:01 amGot my plain edge Magnacut Native in the mail today, I've been Native-less for around a year now and I'm very pleased to have it in my rotation again. I took off the clip until I pick up an aftermarket deep carry. This thing is gonna be my go to work knife in the kitchen, won't have to worry about getting it wet or dirty.
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It affected it a lot. The greenish one was just grey dye. The reddish one was coral, blue and scarlet red. Two different solutions on the red oneCrustyOtter wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:01 pmNice dye job! How much do you think the original yellow affected the end color? I know about where I want to end up, just not sure if I should compensate for the yellow affect.
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Hmmm, I'll have to see what I end up with
I'm going to try for something close to the K390 blue. The Rit dye chart lists a "Zante Bay" as 1.5 parts Kentucky Sky to .75 parts Sapphire Blue. Might have to play with the proportions. Thanks for the heads up.
I like that green though.
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. Actually, I think one of the great properties of Magnacut is its fine grain structure, so it should be routine to grind. Of course 61 easier to grind than 64, but every report is that it likes the strop, and is easy to sharpen, so it must be easy to grind as well.electro-static wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 10:16 pmI think Magna-Cut might be a bit hard to grind to end up in anything but fairly high end kitchen knives.
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a little off topic, but today I noticed how similar S30V and Magnacut are in their composition:
S30V and Magnacut are the same in:
-Vanadium: 4%
-Molybdenum: 2%
-Nitrogen: 0.2%
They differ slightly in:
-Carbon: S30v 1.45% -> 1.15% in Magnacut
They differ significantly in:
-Chromium: S30V 14% -> 10.7% in Magnacut
The huge practical difference is that by removing 3.3% of the Chromium from the total mix, and fine tuning the carbon content, all the large sized Chromium carbides found in S30V are dissolved/removed from the finished steel matrix of Magnacut, replaced by smaller, finer carbides, especially vanadium carbides. And smaller, finer means less prone to fractures, aka toughness.
Finally, Niobium is added in, which I assume contributes along with fine grain structure to the huge increase in toughness, as well as the 64-65 HRC potential, of Magnacut.
Niobium: S30V 0%, 2% in Magnacut
Anyway, I just thought that was interesting... a hugely different steel from small changes that eliminate excess chromium carbides.
S30V and Magnacut are the same in:
-Vanadium: 4%
-Molybdenum: 2%
-Nitrogen: 0.2%
They differ slightly in:
-Carbon: S30v 1.45% -> 1.15% in Magnacut
They differ significantly in:
-Chromium: S30V 14% -> 10.7% in Magnacut
The huge practical difference is that by removing 3.3% of the Chromium from the total mix, and fine tuning the carbon content, all the large sized Chromium carbides found in S30V are dissolved/removed from the finished steel matrix of Magnacut, replaced by smaller, finer carbides, especially vanadium carbides. And smaller, finer means less prone to fractures, aka toughness.
Finally, Niobium is added in, which I assume contributes along with fine grain structure to the huge increase in toughness, as well as the 64-65 HRC potential, of Magnacut.
Niobium: S30V 0%, 2% in Magnacut
Anyway, I just thought that was interesting... a hugely different steel from small changes that eliminate excess chromium carbides.