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Good Video: Top 10 Spyderco Knives - 2021

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https://youtu.be/f_zasG6_Oe8

Timestamps:
  • Intro: 00:00
  • Delica/Endela/Endura Family: 00:16
  • Chaparral: 02:55
  • Astute: 03:41
  • UK Penknife: 04:56
  • Para 3: 05:42
  • Tenacious: 06:40
  • Manix 2: 07:34
  • Slysz Swayback: 08:35
  • Atlantic Salt: 10:03
  • YoJumbo: 11:00
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No PM2! That's a welcome relief.
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Re: Good Video: Top 10 Spyderco Knives - 2021

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nerdlock wrote:
Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:45 pm
No PM2! That's a welcome relief.
I personally like the PM2, I have 3. Why does it get so much hate? Because sprints usually are only PM2s?
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I wonder if “Top 10” means just for 2021 (I’ve asked). I know there was quite a shortage of ParaMilitary2 (as well as some other models) throughout the year.

Early this year I purchased that Green FRN Salt2 LC200N Wharncliffe SpyderEdge as a new regular production model. I don’t carry it but it’s the best folder I’ve had for opening the toughest hard plastic packages, opening boxes, cutting through tough seat belts & clothing, etc. plus it’s completely maintenance free.
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Re: Good Video: Top 10 Spyderco Knives - 2021

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- I always forget about the Atlantic. And when I get reminded always think of getting one and doing a wharnie mod (not MY idea at all, but I even started a thread about this: viewtopic.php?t=88063).
It looks to have really similar ergos to a PM2, perhaps just "better" due to the FRN chamfering and the backlock (closed back, no comp.lock cutout) - and it offers more blade, still shorter closed size, is much lighter and has thinner stock than a PM2 (and has the rustproof and very tough LC200 N steel)

- And it drives me a bit crazy when even knife dealers ("experts"??) state that one should take a thick 3.7 mm blade in a small folder if (quote) "a little bit heavier use" is in mind. Really?? I think I do use my Spydies pretty hard, and the 3.00 mm of an Endura or the 3.2 mm of a Manix are way thick enough on even that longer folders. Actually I can´t see how my 2.5 mm Salt ffg or even my 2.00 mm Chap would not take any harder use I put them trough.

This is not generally against thicker stock. Just against the reasoning that small folders would not be suitable for "a bit harder use" if they sport 3.00 "thin" blades. And "drives me a bit crazy" is actually really exaggerated of course ;) - to each their own!

It is just that to a large part the market dictates what kind of folders are made.
Now someone not into knives and watching that vid might think: "Well, perhaps I´d better go for 3.7 mm stock than 3.00 in case I´ll do something harder than opening a package some day". And in consequence more thick bladed folders are sold and made. Though I think it is almost impossible to invent an even just remotely small folder -ish task, where a 3.00 Sage blade could not take what a 3.7 mm Para 3 blade can (or the tips or pivots break before the whole blade ever can).
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- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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My top 10 for 21 are:

Gb2
Pm2
Endura k390
Spydiechef
Kapara/carbon fiber
Manix 2 rex45
Mcbee
Ladybug/jester
Yojumbo dlc
Para3 -digicam/dlc
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When a knife dealer says in a video "heavier use", they mean using it to open beers and unscrew some philips. Usually means the knife won't perform as a knife :rofl
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Wartstein wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:06 am
Now someone not into knives and watching that vid might think: "Well, perhaps I´d better go for 3.7 mm stock than 3.00 in case I´ll do something harder than opening a package some day". And in consequence more thick bladed folders are sold and made.

Good post! Agree on all points!
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nerdlock wrote:
Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:45 pm
No PM2! That's a welcome relief.
Agree 100%! More space for other great Spyderco knives!
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kadinh wrote:
Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:09 pm
nerdlock wrote:
Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:45 pm
No PM2! That's a welcome relief.
I personally like the PM2, I have 3. Why does it get so much hate? Because sprints usually are only PM2s?

I never said that I hated it...on the top of my head, not going to my knife boxes to count, I've had as many as 20 PM2s at some point, sold several, have about 5 BNIBs in storage waiting to be sold again in the near future, and trying to keep my collection to 5-6 PM2 variants. I don't think I would have bought much of it in the past if I hated it.

I think you mean dealer exclusives; yes, it does get annoying when dealers crank out several variations of the same PM2 in different blade finish and scale options. There are a lot of good Spydercos besides the PM2 and its a shame that because of Facebook collector groups, a lot of people are thinking that the PM2 is the be-all, end-all Spyderco and that it turn drives dealers to order PM2s while largely ignoring the other knives Spyderco has to offer.
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nerdlock wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:04 pm
kadinh wrote:
Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:09 pm
nerdlock wrote:
Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:45 pm
No PM2! That's a welcome relief.
I personally like the PM2, I have 3. Why does it get so much hate? Because sprints usually are only PM2s?

I never said that I hated it...on the top of my head, not going to my knife boxes to count, I've had as many as 20 PM2s at some point, sold several, have about 5 BNIBs in storage waiting to be sold again in the near future, and trying to keep my collection to 5-6 PM2 variants. I don't think I would have bought much of it in the past if I hated it.

I think you mean dealer exclusives; yes, it does get annoying when dealers crank out several variations of the same PM2 in different blade finish and scale options. There are a lot of good Spydercos besides the PM2 and its a shame that because of Facebook collector groups, a lot of people are thinking that the PM2 is the be-all, end-all Spyderco and that it turn drives dealers to order PM2s while largely ignoring the other knives Spyderco has to offer.
let them. it keeps the manix a good value. :)
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The Swick should have made that list if it came out this year :disappointed
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nerdlock wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:04 pm
kadinh wrote:
Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:09 pm
nerdlock wrote:
Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:45 pm
No PM2! That's a welcome relief.
I personally like the PM2, I have 3. Why does it get so much hate? Because sprints usually are only PM2s?

I never said that I hated it...on the top of my head, not going to my knife boxes to count, I've had as many as 20 PM2s at some point, sold several, have about 5 BNIBs in storage waiting to be sold again in the near future, and trying to keep my collection to 5-6 PM2 variants. I don't think I would have bought much of it in the past if I hated it.

I think you mean dealer exclusives; yes, it does get annoying when dealers crank out several variations of the same PM2 in different blade finish and scale options. There are a lot of good Spydercos besides the PM2 and its a shame that because of Facebook collector groups, a lot of people are thinking that the PM2 is the be-all, end-all Spyderco and that it turn drives dealers to order PM2s while largely ignoring the other knives Spyderco has to offer.
Gotcha. Thank you for explaining it to me, wasn’t trying to sound rude or anything; just see other people making comments about the PM2, but what you said makes a ton of sense.
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Ramonade wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:02 am
When a knife dealer says in a video "heavier use", they mean using it to open beers and unscrew some philips. Usually means the knife won't perform as a knife :rofl

Well, even for those tasks thinner bladestock (spines) might actually be better... :smirk
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-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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Wartstein wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:39 am
Ramonade wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:02 am
When a knife dealer says in a video "heavier use", they mean using it to open beers and unscrew some philips. Usually means the knife won't perform as a knife :rofl

Well, even for those tasks thinner bladestock (spines) might actually be better... :smirk

If its a PH1, I cant use my quarter inch stock hinderer, i need my pm2 ! :squinting-tongue
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GP Knives responded on YouTube that it’s just their picks for 2021 and not based on sales figures.
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Wartstein wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:06 am
- I always forget about the Atlantic. And when I get reminded always think of getting one and doing a wharnie mod (not MY idea at all, but I even started a thread about this: viewtopic.php?t=88063).
It looks to have really similar ergos to a PM2, perhaps just "better" due to the FRN chamfering and the backlock (closed back, no comp.lock cutout) - and it offers more blade, still shorter closed size, is much lighter and has thinner stock than a PM2 (and has the rustproof and very tough LC200 N steel)

- And it drives me a bit crazy when even knife dealers ("experts"??) state that one should take a thick 3.7 mm blade in a small folder if (quote) "a little bit heavier use" is in mind. Really?? I think I do use my Spydies pretty hard, and the 3.00 mm of an Endura or the 3.2 mm of a Manix are way thick enough on even that longer folders. Actually I can´t see how my 2.5 mm Salt ffg or even my 2.00 mm Chap would not take any harder use I put them trough.

This is not generally against thicker stock. Just against the reasoning that small folders would not be suitable for "a bit harder use" if they sport 3.00 "thin" blades. And "drives me a bit crazy" is actually really exaggerated of course ;) - to each their own!

It is just that to a large part the market dictates what kind of folders are made.
Now someone not into knives and watching that vid might think: "Well, perhaps I´d better go for 3.7 mm stock than 3.00 in case I´ll do something harder than opening a package some day". And in consequence more thick bladed folders are sold and made. Though I think it is almost impossible to invent an even just remotely small folder -ish task, where a 3.00 Sage blade could not take what a 3.7 mm Para 3 blade can (or the tips or pivots break before the whole blade ever can).

I agree that blade thickness at the spine is not the best metric to consider for performance or usage choice. The Swayback has a 3.5 mm blade and thanks to the hollow grind it slices like a razor and has a very fine, even delicate tip. The Pacific comes in under 3 mm and is tank tough. So many factors come into play and so much of the information, especially around steel properties, is serious AFI territory.

Most people who use and carry knives have different criteria than us SpyderHeads :bug-red. Thickness as a metric of durability is easy to understand from that perspective. For most people, using a folding knife as a cutting tool, BTE thickness will have more to do with the user experience than spine thickness…that and aesthetic and ergonomic design.
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