Button comp.lock Sage?!

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Button comp.lock Sage?!

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The Sage is the platform for displaying different lock types in the Spyderco lineup.

Who else would like to see the button comp.lock in the next Sage iteration (if technically possible - I have no idea what kind of - / space in the - handle this locktype requires)??

I personally am very interested in the button comp.lock - possibly featuring the great things of the comp.lock, but without the (for me) not-so-great.
Now the Smock (only button comp.lock folder I am aware of) is just really not my kind of knife but I´d certainly get a Sage just for trying out this locktype!
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A knife with a wide blade such as the Sage might look weird with a cut-out needed for the button complock, if you know what I mean. Maybe some talented guy can try to sketch it up.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all pro button complock! Love my Smock!!
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Sounds like a big improvement.
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archangel wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:16 am
A knife with a wide blade such as the Sage might look weird with a cut-out needed for the button complock, if you know what I mean. Maybe some talented guy can try to sketch it up.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all pro button complock! Love my Smock!!
Yeah, that´s what I thought when saying that I´d have no idea what kind of handle / space in the handle a button comp.lock requires.

So you think it IS the case that there is no way to make a "normally sized and looking" button comp.lock folder without a cutout / choil at all? This could be the only con so far with this locktype for me... other than that it sounds great. I´ve always found the comp.lock generally a really ingenious design, that in my use just has some disadvantages. I am pretty sure the latter would be resolved with the button version.

Now the Smock does have a pretty huge cutout, but also a rather narrow (like in "not tall") handle... I could imagine that with a taller handle the cutout in the blade could be less pronounced in a button comp.lock knife?
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I'd be interested in one, as long as it doesn't have the odd-looking blade cutout that the Smock has.
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mikey177 wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:47 am
I'd be interested in one, as long as it doesn't have the odd-looking blade cutout that the Smock has.
Exactly this.

Question is: Does a knife like the Sage with its presumably a bit taller than the Smock handle and blade need the "odd looking cutout" in order to have a button comp lock, or does a :regular choil do the trick akready??

I'll have to search for pics of a disassembled Smock, or perhaps someone can share such.
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... Perhaps, purely concerning the overall shape (tall handle, tall blade), a knife like the Manix could be a good choice for a button comp.lock in a knife with a "regular" choil?
After all the CBBL also requires quite some space in the handle, just like the button comp.lock probably does too.
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I may be overlooking something, but the Plunge Lock surely has something in common with the button compression lock, and the Autonomy doesn't have a giant scoop taken out of the blade to accomodate the button, so I don't think it's a requirement.

The scoop is there but it's hidden inside the handle. Maybe this isn't possible with a Sage but it's possible with other models and/or new models.
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Evil D wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:25 am
I may be overlooking something, but the Plunge Lock surely has something in common with the button compression lock, and the Autonomy doesn't have a giant scoop taken out of the blade to accomodate the button, so I don't think it's a requirement.

The scoop is there but it's hidden inside the handle. Maybe this isn't possible with a Sage but it's possible with other models and/or new models.

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Let's do it! I love it! Can we please have this? If they keep it narrow and close to the pivot like this, it might even work with the Sage. And given that the Sage is THE platform for different lock types....
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I don't really think it's much of an improvement but I wouldn't say no to one either
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Sharp Guy wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:18 pm
I don't really think it's much of an improvement but I wouldn't say no to one either


The biggest advantage in my opinion is getting rid of the lock cutout on the spine of the handle. This makes it less likely to create a hot spot during hard use. While the lock may not be exactly the same, I can really lean on my Autonomy because the spine is smooth and wide and distributes pressure over a larger area. With other compression lock knives you get that spot with just the one liner/scale and it's so thin I always get hot spots or worse from that area.
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Evil D wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:28 pm
Sharp Guy wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:18 pm
I don't really think it's much of an improvement but I wouldn't say no to one either


The biggest advantage in my opinion is getting rid of the lock cutout on the spine of the handle. This makes it less likely to create a hot spot during hard use. While the lock may not be exactly the same, I can really lean on my Autonomy because the spine is smooth and wide and distributes pressure over a larger area. With other compression lock knives you get that spot with just the one liner/scale and it's so thin I always get hot spots or worse from that area.
Yeah I know some don't like that cutout. It's never bothered me but I get that some don't like it
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