Chapp wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:36 am
Wartstein wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:28 am
Sorry to say, but I really hope they WILL make a PM2 LW linerless... I mean, being light is the main point of "lightweight".
I have a Para 3 LW to try it out right now.
And yes, the FRN somehow feels a bit more "plasticy" than on my Seki and even other Golden FRNs indeed. Does not bother me though, and putting liners beneath that FRN would not change much imho...
Perhaps you could try and chamfer the handle of a G10 PM2 diy? Just a thought..
From what I understand, there are two brands of those Spyderco models when it comes to those FRN variations :
- The FRN models, like the Chaparral FRN. The handles are FRN, but it keeps it liners.
- The Lightweight (LW) models, where the main purpose is being as lightweight as possible, thus losing the liners, like the Native 5 FRN or the PM3 LW.
In short, I hope that upcoming PM2 is a PM2 FRN and not a PM2 LW.
About the diy chamfering, I'd butcher it 100% and that would only solve one problem I have with the current model.
You are right of course!
Though in my view:
- With the Chaparral FRN they did not have the main goal to make it "lightweight", but to display just another scale material - like the Chap was intended to do as a model (showcase various handle materials)
- The Seki FRN "lightweight" models are actually not li
ghtweight versions of already existing "heavier" (G10...) models, but designed from the get go to be pretty lightweight, despite having liners. So the "main" versions of Seki models (Endura, Delica..) come in FRN, as much as the "main" versions of many Golden models come in G10 (PM2, Millie...)
The "lightweight" versions of the Seki models are catually the Seki Salts (exceptions possible, see DFly)
I am sorry for you (honestly!) but I think being FRN (chamfered) AND clearly lighter than the current PM2 cause it is linerless will make a PM2 LW attractive to more people than "just" FRN (plus liners) and an only minimal weight savings would be (for me this is the case for sure)
Again: Your say that you don´t like the feeling of the Para 3 FRN in hand ("cheap...") - do you think this would change just because there would be liners
beneath that (for you) "cheap" feeling FRN?
As said: I can understand what you mean: The Para 3 LW somehow does feel a bit more "plasticy", "brittle" than the Seki FRN to me too. This does not bother me at all though cause it has no functional implication.
Actually I would find the Para 3 pretty cool.... if it was larger
- as it is, the ergos are not too great for bigger hands and I just can´t really warm up to the comp.lock, but a
PM2 LW would/will be really nice imho...