Stretch in a steel I never heard of v-toku2
Re: Stretch in a steel I never heard of v-toku2
I can't speak to the V-toku performance, but I can say that the way it patina's in contrast to the sus 410 stainless cladding is pretty cool. In the right light you can see the layers of steel on the spine also.
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Re: Stretch in a steel I never heard of v-toku2
17 degrees per side?
The Seki made knives can vary, but it’s possibly already at, or close to that angle with the factory edge.
V-Toku 2 could easily go 15 degrees per side or less and still be plenty durable.
What sharpening gear are you using?
For reference, most Moras are factory ground to about 11.5 degrees per side.
There’s not really one best angle for a knife. It depends on the way you use them, what you use them for, and the materials properties of the particular steel.
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Re: Stretch in a steel I never heard of v-toku2
The V-Toku sprints happened because an industry friend of Sal's/Spyderco's needed to get there hands on some but minimum order quantity was too high for their small operation, so Spyderco chipped in to make the order happen. Sal posted that on the forum a while back, can't remember the thread name. I like that story - that's why my Stretch is a V-Toku. It's a good blade steel and a good contrast to some of the popular PM steels.
Re: Stretch in a steel I never heard of v-toku2
I really should buy a angle gauge, I use a ken onion set on 17* per a spyderco tech advice, it really made my delica cruwear come alive and a new type of strop with 1 micron loadCambertree wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:17 pm17 degrees per side?
The Seki made knives can vary, but it’s possibly already at, or close to that angle with the factory edge.
V-Toku 2 could easily go 15 degrees per side or less and still be plenty durable.
What sharpening gear are you using?
For reference, most Moras are factory ground to about 11.5 degrees per side.
There’s not really one best angle for a knife. It depends on the way you use them, what you use them for, and the materials properties of the particular steel.
My moraknif is sharpening on a DMT 750 then 1500 sandpaper, strop
As a ranching knife no telling what this stretch will see on a average daily basis
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Re: Stretch in a steel I never heard of v-toku2
No worries. :)S-3 ranch wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:43 pmI really should buy a angle gauge, I use a ken onion set on 17* per a spyderco tech advice, it really made my delica cruwear come alive and a new type of strop with 1 micron loadCambertree wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:17 pm17 degrees per side?
The Seki made knives can vary, but it’s possibly already at, or close to that angle with the factory edge.
V-Toku 2 could easily go 15 degrees per side or less and still be plenty durable.
What sharpening gear are you using?
For reference, most Moras are factory ground to about 11.5 degrees per side.
There’s not really one best angle for a knife. It depends on the way you use them, what you use them for, and the materials properties of the particular steel.
My moraknif is sharpening on a DMT 750 then 1500 sandpaper, strop
As a ranching knife no telling what this stretch will see on a average daily basis
One of the good things about those low alloy carbon steels is they are easy to resharpen to different angles and grit finishes, if you feel like experimenting.
More acute angles and coarser grit finishes will generally result in better edge retention.
I’ll be interested to hear what you think of the knife after using it on the ranch for a while.
There’s quite a few fans of the Stretch and Stretch 2 here.
I think the Stretch 1 must be my favourite Spyderco model. :)
Re: Stretch in a steel I never heard of v-toku2
Toku-v is a great steel to have fun with. 17 degrees edge is a good start, my Toku v stretch never chipped and I took it down to 15degrees.
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Re: Stretch in a steel I never heard of v-toku2
Well it arrived and it’s awesome, one problem is it’s huge, and if I am going to carry it on horse back or on a ATV or bush plane, I will need to purchase a good sheath as it doesn’t seem to fit in my pockets, any idea who makes a good sheath, need one for a case trapper also
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Re: Stretch in a steel I never heard of v-toku2
V-toku2 steel will definitely take some time to figure out, I worked on a fence yesterday and had to use and trim lots of zip ties, and twine, last night this knife felt dull and sticky, yet it’s still hair sharp, very very hard to read steel , trying to figure out if it will benefit with a duel edge 6000 grit one side , 750 other ?
https://youtu.be/FruwVRSmhWA
https://youtu.be/FruwVRSmhWA
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Re: Stretch in a steel I never heard of v-toku2
There are plenty of cheap nylon sheaths with a velcro flap and a sewn on belt loop that you can buy online. I would be a little worried about how well the belt loop was sewn on though.S-3 ranch wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:41 pmWell it arrived and it’s awesome, one problem is it’s huge, and if I am going to carry it on horse back or on a ATV or bush plane, I will need to purchase a good sheath as it doesn’t seem to fit in my pockets, any idea who makes a good sheath, need one for a case trapper also
Yeah, it seems to feel duller than it is.S-3 ranch wrote: V-toku2 steel will definitely take some time to figure out, I worked on a fence yesterday and had to use and trim lots of zip ties, and twine, last night this knife felt dull and sticky, yet it’s still hair sharp, very very hard to read steel , trying to figure out if it will benefit with a duel edge 6000 grit one side , 750 other ?
https://youtu.be/FruwVRSmhWA
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Re: Stretch in a steel I never heard of v-toku2
If you’re cutting a lot of twine, rope, zip ties etc in your daily work, you might try an edge finish in the 400-600 grit range. Make sure you’ve properly deburred, and finish with very light passes, then a light and minimal stropping. See how you go with that.S-3 ranch wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:24 pmV-toku2 steel will definitely take some time to figure out, I worked on a fence yesterday and had to use and trim lots of zip ties, and twine, last night this knife felt dull and sticky, yet it’s still hair sharp, very very hard to read steel , trying to figure out if it will benefit with a duel edge 6000 grit one side , 750 other ?
https://youtu.be/FruwVRSmhWA
For my own uses, I’d recommend taking it to a more acute edge angle too, after trying that coarser grit finish for a while.
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Re: Stretch in a steel I never heard of v-toku2
S3, in my case the V Toku does really well between 400 grit to 1000. I usually go with 600 grit to give it a biting edge. It can go way higher easily but I don't really see that much reason to.
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Re: Stretch in a steel I never heard of v-toku2
Thanks guys as I am seriously thinking about trying this new duel edge on this V-TokuThe Mastiff wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:29 pmS3, in my case the V Toku does really well between 400 grit to 1000. I usually go with 600 grit to give it a biting edge. It can go way higher easily but I don't really see that much reason to.
Joe
With 400grit or one side and experiment with 750 -1500 then light strop on green load on other
The guy in the video says toku should really pop @ lower grind
https://youtu.be/FruwVRSmhWA
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Re: Stretch in a steel I never heard of v-toku2
I have a Stretch V-Toku, it's fantastique, pull the trigger on it
My collection so far: 52100 Military (2); 52100 PM2 (2); 52100 Para3; Stretch2 V-Toku; KnifeWorks M4 PM2; BentoBox M390 PM2; BentoBox S90V Military; Police4 K390; S110V PM2; SS Delica AUS-6; Wayne Goddard Sprint VG-10
Wish list: Hundred Pacer; Sliverax; Mantra; 52100 PM2 SE; Kapara
Wish list: Hundred Pacer; Sliverax; Mantra; 52100 PM2 SE; Kapara
Re: Stretch in a steel I never heard of v-toku2
Have one too and agreed, great steel in a great package.JonLeBlanc wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:30 amI have a Stretch V-Toku, it's fantastique, pull the trigger on it