I had a spare moment this evening so I drew something up just to see what it would look like.
Lil' P'kal. What do you think?
I had a spare moment this evening so I drew something up just to see what it would look like.
The picture on page one is almost identical to what that would be. Just a slightly different handle shape.
Grappling as in Brazilian Jiu jitsu and wrestling.sal wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:27 pmYou mentioned "grappling". Are you a LEO? Where do you carry your Clinch Pick and how do you deploy it?
The handle on our P'Kal is not quite 4.5", A 3" handle would be only for 3 fingers and might be hard to hold onto in a situation? The "Clinch Pick" shown has a Perrin Finger Ring which certainly helps with retention. Have you seen a "Swick"?
Our P'Kal has a large indent next to the spine of the blade to help with retention. Are you thinking to keep the indent, but just make the blade and handle shorter?
I can't find any information or reference to the "Clinch Pick" shown above. All I can find is Southnarc's original version. Can you point me to any?
sal
Reject wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:52 pmCould the same result be achieved by modifying the blades on a couple of existing models?
Adding a wave to the Wharncliffe blade of the Delica or the Dragonfly would get you fairly close to what you are after.
Plus, :o The Delica and Dragonfly a little more friendly looking than the P’kal.
Shouldn’t take too much to modify the cutting edge to match the P’kal.
Putting a tail on the Dragonfly would aid with grip. The stubby lanyard can be held in the hand or dropped between the fingers.
Optimally I prefer no Perrin finger ring because it will be much harder to deploysal wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:45 pmThanx DD,
Craig knows his stuff. I worked with him quite a bit while working on the folding P'Kal. At least a year in the designing. I can see where the Perrin finger Ring would be an asset to a "Clinch Pick". In my opinion, the most important thing about a self defense knife is that you don't drop it. The downside of the finger ring is that you have to already have a finger in the ring before you have to deploy.
I agree that the indent would be a critical necessity in a smaller P'Kal.
sal
I disagree with this 100% and suspect that you have never handled one. Locating the ring is a new element, yes. But, it is in no way difficult. With almost no practice, it becomes second nature.dd61999 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:46 pmOptimally I prefer no Perrin finger ring because it will be much harder to deploysal wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:45 pmThanx DD,
Craig knows his stuff. I worked with him quite a bit while working on the folding P'Kal. At least a year in the designing. I can see where the Perrin finger Ring would be an asset to a "Clinch Pick". In my opinion, the most important thing about a self defense knife is that you don't drop it. The downside of the finger ring is that you have to already have a finger in the ring before you have to deploy.
I agree that the indent would be a critical necessity in a smaller P'Kal.
sal
Sumdumguy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:37 amI disagree with this 100% and suspect that you have never handled one. Locating the ring is a new element, yes. But, it is in no way difficult. With almost no practice, it becomes second nature.dd61999 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:46 pmOptimally I prefer no Perrin finger ring because it will be much harder to deploysal wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:45 pmThanx DD,
Craig knows his stuff. I worked with him quite a bit while working on the folding P'Kal. At least a year in the designing. I can see where the Perrin finger Ring would be an asset to a "Clinch Pick". In my opinion, the most important thing about a self defense knife is that you don't drop it. The downside of the finger ring is that you have to already have a finger in the ring before you have to deploy.
I agree that the indent would be a critical necessity in a smaller P'Kal.
sal