New CPM Stainless Steel??
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New CPM Stainless Steel??
Saw someone saying it is supposed to be like a stainless 4V? :eek: How long until we see this in a Mule??
This video is from our very own DBH/BBB, so hopefully he will chime in here. My favorite fixed blade maker also said that he is already testing this steel.
This video is from our very own DBH/BBB, so hopefully he will chime in here. My favorite fixed blade maker also said that he is already testing this steel.
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Cool. Thanks SC16 and BBB! I am curious to watch what develops. :cool:
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So, which steel is it? Still under wraps?
On another note, plain old 1095 did pretty well in that test. Much better than I would have guessed after going thru that nail.
On another note, plain old 1095 did pretty well in that test. Much better than I would have guessed after going thru that nail.
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Edge geometry is most important as always; that ESEE is a heavy knife. I was surprised the difference was so big between the two steels when the ESEE has that kind of geometry.
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Agreed. I would like to see the same blade and edge geometry used for both blades in tests like this.
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Sure, but it's a precarious position, I don't want to make an ESEE clone, I am knifemaker, I make my own designs.
Also, if I made my knife in 1095 and heat treated it folks would just give me grief that I didn't HT the 1095 properly and need to use brand "X" also it doesn't do a good job of relating to folks since no one buys 1095 I heat treat off the shelf.
I kept the demonstration somewhat reasonable, I could always have gone more destructive but we just need to go enough to see some differences.
The purpose of the video is not to give ESEE a hard time either, I like ESEE, lots of folks like ESEE, that's why I compared it to something we all can relate to.
Also, if I made my knife in 1095 and heat treated it folks would just give me grief that I didn't HT the 1095 properly and need to use brand "X" also it doesn't do a good job of relating to folks since no one buys 1095 I heat treat off the shelf.
I kept the demonstration somewhat reasonable, I could always have gone more destructive but we just need to go enough to see some differences.
The purpose of the video is not to give ESEE a hard time either, I like ESEE, lots of folks like ESEE, that's why I compared it to something we all can relate to.
JRinFL wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:59 amAgreed. I would like to see the same blade and edge geometry used for both blades in tests like this.
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Yeah, it's easy being a critic, much harder to be a maker! It was not my intent to find flaws with you or your demonstration, I just meant that it is better if the geometries are the same as it eliminates one more variable.Deadboxhero wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:37 amSure, but it's a precarious position, I don't want to make an ESEE clone, I am knifemaker, I make my own designs.
Also, if I made my knife in 1095 and heat treated it folks would just give me grief that I didn't HT the 1095 properly and need to use brand "X" also it doesn't do a good job of relating to folks since no one buys 1095 I heat treat off the shelf.
I kept the demonstration somewhat reasonable, I could always have gone more destructive but we just need to go enough to see some differences.
The purpose of the video is not to give ESEE a hard time either, I like ESEE, lots of folks like ESEE, that's why I compared it to something we all can relate to.
So is the new steel under NDA?
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The name and chemistry isn't available publicly yet, but should be soon.
JRinFL wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:47 amYeah, it's easy being a critic, much harder to be a maker! It was not my intent to find flaws with you or your demonstration, I just meant that it is better if the geometries are the same as it eliminates one more variable.Deadboxhero wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:37 amSure, but it's a precarious position, I don't want to make an ESEE clone, I am knifemaker, I make my own designs.
Also, if I made my knife in 1095 and heat treated it folks would just give me grief that I didn't HT the 1095 properly and need to use brand "X" also it doesn't do a good job of relating to folks since no one buys 1095 I heat treat off the shelf.
I kept the demonstration somewhat reasonable, I could always have gone more destructive but we just need to go enough to see some differences.
The purpose of the video is not to give ESEE a hard time either, I like ESEE, lots of folks like ESEE, that's why I compared it to something we all can relate to.
So is the new steel under NDA?
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Well well well,
62.4 HRC and breaking nails without chipping.
Wow.
62.4 HRC and breaking nails without chipping.
Wow.
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I just think the progress of steel is amazing. The craftmanship, amazing. YouTube started 2005, just the ability for me to see this information is amazing. I am amazed that a single handed, bolt cutting, 4x4 chopping, wood splitting axe, can look so much like a knife. Amazed and confused. Amazed that it is true, confused because I can only share the link. When I tell non believers that a knife can chop nails with little to no damage, they say "fake news."
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I am hoping this is similar to SRS-15 that Shawn has discussed in the past. A stainless cruwear "like" steel. Obviously his custom work will maximize the performance.
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Very impressive. Thanks, Shawn for the eye opener.
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I'd say this new steel is even better. Dr Larrin is a real mastermind and the chemistry is very purpose built for high performance.
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Big Chris made a couple knives in a mystery steel he couldn't mention the name of, I bet this is it. He raved about it.
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I was very impressed to see a PM stainless do so well. Finally living in 2021 :cool: future years.
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Yes.
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That’s great news.
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Is the optimal heat treat for this steel something Spyderco could do in a full production environment? I'm guessing it was designed this way, but just curious.
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Also, how far out would we be from seeing this in a Spyderco Mule, and then in an actual Spyderco folder? I wonder if this is one of the mystery Mules since they skipped a number or two? :confused:
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Yes.steelcity16 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:06 pmIs the optimal heat treat for this steel something Spyderco could do in a full production environment? I'm guessing it was designed this way, but just curious.
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