Evil D wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:40 pm
aicolainen wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:15 am
I understand there are a fair share of XL paws around here, and it's great news that Spyderco is willing to serve that part of their audience. With that said, I very humbly hope that Spyderco don't forget about us small paws.
My world view might be skewed by my bias, but as far as I can tell, there seems like most of the focus is directed towards large and XL models / hand size.
The fact of the matter is, in most applications I prefer Spyderco's approach to knife design, but the ergonomic design doesn't fully pay off when the knife is too large for my hand. Things just doesn't line up, and the grip feels awkward.
I also understand there's a limit to how many models and variations there could practically be, but judging by the rate of which Benchmade is rolling out small's, there is money to be made there.
This was quite far off topic, although fairly in line with the tangent this thread was already on, so I'll end this by pulling things slightly back in the right direction;
If there by any chance was a small leaf jumper salt, I would probably quit whining about a small Caribbean
Maybe we're looking at different catalogs, there sure are a lot of "Lil ______" models and very few "______ XL" models. Spyderco practically invented the little big knife concept.
I feel bad about derailing this discussion even more, but this kind of took an unexpected turn.
Like I said, maybe I'm not seeing this objectively.
And it's by no means a complaint, there's just not a lot of Spyderco's that fit my hand well, and it's OK. No hands are the same and some will fit better than others. I still have more Spyderco's than any other brand, because their design philosophy fits me much better than their sizes. Most of the time.
The ones that are spot on for me, or very close, are knives like the Salt 2 (delica), Chaparral and probably the Spydiechef. They are not what I would call little big knives, just good working knives on the small end of "regular" that fit my hand very well lengthwise and my fingers lines up with whatever grooves are there.
The Lil'native fits my hand well too, but it's not one that fits my needs particularly well.
And maybe all of this is why I'm a little obsessed with blade to handle ratios. As much as I like the Dragonfly, which is absolutely a masterpiece of a little big knife, I sometimes want more cutting edge without giving up on grip comfort.
Although I haven't tried the regular Caribbean, I believe a smaller Caribbean would be a very interesting approach to achieving that kind of good working knife with decent cutting edge, that could be well optimized to fit a smaller hand.
This doesn't mean I have anything against big knives, I very much appreciate their existence, but I rarely need one and they almost never fit me well, so when I get one, it's usually for a special purpose / application.
What do the Military, Manix XL, Police 3 AND 4, Chinook 1-4 and K2 all have in common?
Combined, these models have had less sprints in the past five years than the Para 3 alone has had in the past two years.
That said, I commend Spyderco for offering the wide variety of sizes they do. Plenty to choose from regardless of which size you prefer.
The models you mention makes me think I might be doing the mistake of thinking every knife over a certain size is XL, to me they are, but obviously there are variation in hand size even at the large end of the spectrum. I have no problem seeing how that could make it pretty hard for any maker to please everyone, and I absolutely agree Spyderco is trying very hard at that. To me, the Shaman, Native chief and even the regular Manix seem to accommodate quite large hands. It might not actually be that simple
The Para 3 though is a weird knife. To me it seems like a small sized blade with a large sized grip, that is more aimed at people with large sized hands and undersized (3") legal restrictions. I don't really know what to make of it, but it isn't obvious to me that they made to be an alternative to the PM2 for those with smaller hands.