Lanyard tube rattle --a common thing?

[mikey177]

I bought a new Gayle Bradley Advocate a few weeks ago, and I noticed that the knife would make a rattling noise when shaken. I had a similar experience with my CQI Spydiechef, and discovered that the lanyard tube was the culprit.

I finally got around to removing the lanyard tube on the Advocate, as I did with the Spydiechef some months ago.

I don't use lanyards, so both folders look cleaner to me without the tube.

I was just wondering if this was a common thing with Ti framelocks that have lanyard tubes or pins, as I have a CRK Umnumzaan that also rattled when I removed the lanyard that was tied to it.

[Sharp Guy]

I've never had the issue with any of my knives (including Advocate). However, I've seen where others have had the issue.

Looks like it's a pretty simple fix

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[TkoK83Spy]

Super glue is the simple fix! I had to do it with my lanyard tube on my Manix when I swapped it to the grooved micarta scales. The little rattle of the tube drove me nuts.

Funny you mention your CRK, I just cut my lanyard off the tube on my 31 and now I have to do the same with mine. Makes it sound cheap haha!

[Lumpy]

I just pop the front scale off and put a very small dab of grease on the end of the tube, works perfectly.

[normal]

I took the tube out of my Chef because it rattled. It has screws on both sides so structural integrity is not an issue. I kind of wish the PM2 was like that too. I don't use lanyards and I agree it looks cleaner to me too.

[mikey177]

I've never had the issue with any of my knives (including Advocate). However, I've seen where others have had the issue.

Looks like it's a pretty simple fix

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84769&p=1357616&hil ... e#p1357616

Thanks for the link. Oddly, I am more comfortable taking my knife apart than using superglue, but I'll keep it in mind for future reference.

Super glue is the simple fix! I had to do it with my lanyard tube on my Manix when I swapped it to the grooved micarta scales. The little rattle of the tube drove me nuts.

Funny you mention your CRK, I just cut my lanyard off the tube on my 31 and now I have to do the same with mine. Makes it sound cheap haha!

I've seen some YT reviews about the Sebenza lanyard rattle, but I was surprised that it also affected the Zaan. At least they are consistent haha

I just pop the front scale off and put a very small dab of grease on the end of the tube, works perfectly.

Does the grease dry out after a while, or is it a one time application?

I took the tube out of my Chef because it rattled. It has screws on both sides so structural integrity is not an issue. I kind of wish the PM2 was like that too. I don't use lanyards and I agree it looks cleaner to me too.

Agreed. I just keep the lanyard tube in a small ziplock bag so it doesn't get misplaced.

[Pokey]

So that's what that rattle is! The pivot on mine isn't super tight, it flips open fine, and there's negligible blade wobble. I always thought it was a rogue ball bearing in the pivot.

I can come up with three more solutions: 1) Use a lanyard, 2) put a 1/4 of a drop of LocTite 290 (Green) in the space where the lanyard tube meets the scales, or 3) don't shake it.

Green 290 was developed to flow into empty spaces and act as a bushing without disassembling parts. It's less viscous, (more runny,) and will creep into tight spaces. This would probably work on the stop pin on a Smock, too.

Edited to add: The rattle on the Advocate lanyard tube doesn't bother me, it only does it when I induce enough shaking to make it do it.

[mikey177]

So that's what that rattle is! The pivot on mine isn't super tight, it flips open fine, and there's negligible blade wobble. I always thought it was a rogue ball bearing in the pivot.

I can come up with two more solutions: 1)Use a lanyard, or 2) put a 1/4 of a drop of LocTite 290 (Green) in the space where the lanyard tube meets the scales. Green 290 was developed to flow into empty spaces and act as a bushing without disassembling parts. It's less viscous, (more runny,) and will creep into tight spaces.

This would probably work on the stop pin on a Smock, too.

Thanks. I'll see if we have Loctite 290 available locally. It might be what I need to fix the noisy stop pin on my Canis.

[Pokey]

So that's what that rattle is! The pivot on mine isn't super tight, it flips open fine, and there's negligible blade wobble. I always thought it was a rogue ball bearing in the pivot.

I can come up with two more solutions: 1)Use a lanyard, or 2) put a 1/4 of a drop of LocTite 290 (Green) in the space where the lanyard tube meets the scales. Green 290 was developed to flow into empty spaces and act as a bushing without disassembling parts. It's less viscous, (more runny,) and will creep into tight spaces.

This would probably work on the stop pin on a Smock, too.

Thanks. I'll see if we have Loctite 290 available locally. It might be what I need to fix the noisy stop pin on my Canis.

Despite what I said above about my Advocate, the stop pin rattle on my Smock occurs more frequently with normal use, which is mildly annoying.

[VooDooChild]

It happens on Taichung knives. Chef, one of my caribbeans, others as well.

It doesnt bother me.

What does bother me is the much louder stop pin rattle that Taichung knives with compression locks can have. My other caribbean and my canis have this problem.
Spyderco uses a non-stepped floating stop pin in Taichung compression lock knives. Sometimes these can rattle badly. To the point where I thought the knife was broken and took it apart.

[mikey177]

It happens on Taichung knives. Chef, one of my caribbeans, others as well.

It doesnt bother me.

What does bother me is the much louder stop pin rattle that Taichung knives with compression locks can have. My other caribbean and my canis have this problem.
Spyderco uses a non-stepped floating stop pin in Taichung compression lock knives. Sometimes these can rattle badly. To the point where I thought the knife was broken and took it apart.

Yes, the stop pin on my Canis rattles as well. When I have time, I will see if some grease will solve the problem.

[The Meat man]

Super glue is the simple fix!

Yep!

OP, I had the exact same problem with my Advocate and I fixed it easily with a tiny dab of super glue.

[bearfacedkiller]

Seems common on Taichung knives. Golden knives usually have flared lanyard tubes so they won’t do it. My K2 rattled a lot so I took the tube out and put it in the box for safe keeping.

[Abyss_Fish]

Common in all the spidies I’ve had. Most models that don’t use the tube as a connector work fine (or better) without the tube in my experience. The spydiechef in particular looks great without the tube.

[defenestrate]

I just received a Superhawk and for the first time, I have lanyard tube rattle. It was sold with an attached spydie lanyard - looked really cool but the bead tended to rap my knuckles annoyingly so I took it off. That's when the rattle showed up. My guess is that someone may well have used the lanyard to quiet the rattle, as it doesn't show any noticable wear (the knife is in very clean condition - aside from maybe a tiny amount of dirt or similar on the scales - I don't think it was ever sharpened). Anyway, first time for me so I thought I'd look it up - I do seem to recall mention of the lanyard to quiet a rattle in an earlier post. I don't think I'm planning to disassemble this one yet, but a toothpick tip-sized drop of superglue or applying a little grease will be fine for regular carry and use.

[mikey177]

I just received a Superhawk and for the first time, I have lanyard tube rattle. It was sold with an attached spydie lanyard - looked really cool but the bead tended to rap my knuckles annoyingly so I took it off. That's when the rattle showed up. My guess is that someone may well have used the lanyard to quiet the rattle, as it doesn't show any noticable wear (the knife is in very clean condition - aside from maybe a tiny amount of dirt or similar on the scales - I don't think it was ever sharpened). Anyway, first time for me so I thought I'd look it up - I do seem to recall mention of the lanyard to quiet a rattle in an earlier post. I don't think I'm planning to disassemble this one yet, but a toothpick tip-sized drop of superglue or applying a little grease will be fine for regular carry and use.

Yes, the suggestions on this thread have shown me that there are easy fixes to lanyard tube rattle. Congratulations on getting the Superhawk.

[defenestrate]

Thanks! I didn't have the scratch most of the time they were originally out and it's a shame they didn't sell better, because it's a great design. I picked up a Superleaf a couple of weeks prior and it is excellent as well. Might have slightly better action than the Superhawk but both are great knives. I've wanted a Superhawk for years so I couldn't pass it up especially once I tried the leaf.

[mikey177]

Cool. Yes, there are a lot of hidden gems among the earlier Spyderco models.

[Pokey]

My Advocate lanyard tube started rattling more, and I’ve noticed the lanyard tube and “stop pin” were both rattling on my Smock.

I couldn’t find the Loctite 290 I mentioned in my earlier posts, so I got the Permatex Green Threadlocker. (same stuff) I used a toothpick to put part of a single drop of Threadlocker on the joint between the tube/pin and liner. As advertised, the Threadlocker wicked into the joints and quieted the rattles. I used a cotton swab dipped in acetone, shook off the excess acetone, and cleaned up the excess Threadlocker. A day later, no more rattles.

[SSD_777]

Knives are not baby toys, if you stop shaking them, they will stop rattling.