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Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby Doc Dan » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:39 pm

Will the Li'l Native slip joint be the perfect pocket knife? It is the right size for a dedicated actual pocket knife (none of this edc nonsense). It is a bit thick, but it cuts okay. The Urban LW is really right on target, except for the overly strong action that can be hard or impossible for smaller hands to open. One thing for sure, it should be a rugged pocket knife.
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Re: Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby TomAiello » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:47 pm

I'm very interested in this one. I love the UKPK, and I wonder if this will be even better...

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Re: Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby ugaarguy » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:08 pm

I've not had any issues carrying a standard Native 5 in the bottom of my pocket the few times I've done it just to try it out. I prefer a locking blade, so I'd probably go for a standard Lil' Native back lock if I carried without a clip in the bottom of my pocket with any frequency. I've been pretty impressed with the Byrd Tern for a quality, small folder. I like my AEB-L Urban, and I've not found it at all difficult to open. I think the Native 5 Slipit will be an excellent addition to the lineup. It might be perfect for you. I'm still chasing perfect for me, but the discontinued Sage 2 was pretty darn close.

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Re: Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby Mushroom » Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:10 am

The Lil Native is already the perfect pocket knife for me! :D

I'll definitely be trying out one of the slipit models as well though.
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Re: Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby aicolainen » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:48 am

I'm not sure what is the difference between a pocket knife and a EDC knife, but I like the idea of a slipit Lil'native.
I've been hoping for this knife to materialize ever since Eric disclosed a slipjoint version was in the plans.

My motivation for wanting a small slipjoint with modern features like pocket clip and one hand operation was to a large degree me wanting to circumvent legal restrictions while not giving up practical features.
The thing is though, laws around here doesn't specifically allow slipjoints, so it's not a free pass to carry, but rather a means to substantiate good intentions by carrying something that is pretty much unsuitable in a tactical / self defense or criminal intent.
However, since no definition exist for lawful carry and locks are not specifically prohibited, I've realized that there are other ways to achieve the same (uncertain) result.
Small sheepsfoot blades like the Manbug salt is pretty much useless in a tactical / offensive role, and have the added benefit of a lock.
Basically, now that the Lil'slip is finally here, I'm not really sure where it fits into my selection. If I lived in UK or similar jurisdiction where it's specifically allowed, I would probably be all over it, but as it stands I will wait and see how it's received while I put some more thought into how it would benefit my use case
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Re: Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby Bamboo » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:14 am

I'm also exited for the lil native slipit. I must I would much prefer a deep carry clip on it, though. Not sure I understand the thought process in using the standard clip. Epecially when this will be used in places that prohibit locking knives and where the discreteness of the wire clip would be welcome. Either way, this is definitely on my list for 2021 (alongside too many from the recent reveal!).

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Re: Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby JRinFL » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:22 am

Does it still have that ridiculously thick blade? If so, then it is far from perfect. It could have been perfect, but no.
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Re: Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby Doc Dan » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:40 am

I'm sure it is thick bladed. The Li'l Native is the proper answer to the Techno, which is not a practical knife, though over built. The Li'l Native is built strongly, too, but has better ergos and a better and more useful blade style, IMO.
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Re: Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby Eee » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:47 am

It feels to me like it will make a good big little knife, kinda like a smaller PITS, with the Urban being the slicey option in that size range. The thicker blade may well suit that.

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Re: Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby Blnd » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:15 am

The Dragonfly2 has been out for a long time. I guess you must have missed it.

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Re: Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby Eee » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:21 am

Blnd wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:15 am
The Dragonfly2 has been out for a long time. I guess you must have missed it.
A fine choice if you can carry locking knives. I find the Urban more hand filling than the Dragonfly too.

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Re: Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby TkoK83Spy » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:30 am

I don't think you can beat the UKPK when it comes to slippies. The thin knife and blade, incredible ergos, generous cutting edge for a knife that size. I had an Urban for a while too, but always reached for the UKPK. I had the St Nicks Lil Native exclusive for a bit to try out the model, but it just didn't work for me. The combination of the thick blade stock and short stubby blade didn't make much sense to me. I also didn't find very appealing to look at, it's a pretty ugly little knife in my eyes compared to the UKPK.
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Re: Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby ChrisinHove » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:46 am

I’ve just picked up the comp lock lil native; it seems good in all manner of grips but I’m wondering whether having to use the choil on the slipjoint version might restrict the ways you will be able to hold it in use.
What do I know ?!- with Eric’s track record in ergo’s it will probably be perfect!

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Re: Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby Eee » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:12 am

ChrisinHove wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:46 am
I’ve just picked up the comp lock lil native; it seems good in all manner of grips but I’m wondering whether having to use the choil on the slipjoint version might restrict the ways you will be able to hold it in use.
What do I know ?!- with Eric’s track record in ergo’s it will probably be perfect!

That’s my hope, that it is better for more grips. The UKPK comfortable as it is, locks me into fewer

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Re: Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby austrian_spyder_fan » Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:39 pm

I'm looking forward to it.
I like die UKPK Vera much and also the Lil Native.
So the Slipit will be great.

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Re: Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby Cl1ff » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:16 pm

Some of the new releases, like this Slipit Native, have really made me realize I have a collector’s spirit and user’s mind.
So many knives and not enough hands, pockets, or money get them all at once! :o
However, the little native is very tempting for my uses and I do enjoy a nice Slip joint...

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Re: Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby kobold » Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:25 am

I am sure the Lil has its uses, but for me, a clip-less Raffir Noble Chaparral is the perfect pocket knife. The handles are thin and polished, making it a smooth little pebble in the bottom of my pocket. The lack of friction means it's effortless to retrieve and slip it back single-handedly.

The knife itself is kinda perfect IMO - thin, slicey blade, good steel, great ergonomics, good action, strong back-lock and steel liners. Handsome.

Thick and textured FRN or G10 scales won't give me the same experience, I have the FRN version and I don't like it as much.. But polished bird's eye maple will work well. Looking forward to that.
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Re: Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby Wartstein » Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:50 am

JRinFL wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:22 am
Does it still have that ridiculously thick blade? If so, then it is far from perfect. It could have been perfect, but no.

I have to echo this. The Lil Native sure is a very cool design, but functionally speaking for me personally the furthest away from "perfect" as a cutting tool in the line of Spydercos small folders. Just my 2c of course

If it has to be a slip joint:
- The Urban blows the Lil Native out of the water: Same closed length, but lighter, thinner, better clip for a small knife, more blade, more cutting edge, thinner, slicier but way strong enough blade (Lil Native blade 30% thicker)

If it may have a lock:
- The Chaparral beats it easily: Almost the same short closed length, thinner, lighter, a lot more blade and edge, better clip for a small knife, a much better cutter (blade of the Lil Native 60% thicker) but still really strong
- The DFly (just a bit smaller in closed length and edge length) for me is also better in most aspects (blade stock, weight, thinness in the pocket, clip...)
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Re: Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby Brock O Lee » Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:39 am

Wartstein wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:50 am
JRinFL wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:22 am
Does it still have that ridiculously thick blade? If so, then it is far from perfect. It could have been perfect, but no.

I have to echo this. The Lil Native sure is a very cool design, but functionally speaking for me personally the furthest away from "perfect" as a cutting tool in the line of Spydercos small folders. Just my 2c of course

If it has to be a slip joint:
- The Urban blows the Lil Native out of the water: Same closed length, but lighter, thinner, better clip for a small knife, more blade, more cutting edge, thinner, slicier but way strong enough blade (Lil Native blade 30% thicker)

If it may have a lock:
- The Chaparral beats it easily: Almost the same short closed length, thinner, lighter, a lot more blade and edge, better clip for a small knife, a much better cutter (blade of the Lil Native 60% thicker) but still really strong
- The DFly (just a bit smaller in closed length and edge length) for me is also better in most aspects (blade stock, weight, thinness in the pocket, clip...)
I agree, too short and wide and thick for my needs as a small EDC.

The UKPK on the other hand is close to perfect...
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Re: Li'l Native Slip joint: Perfect pocket knife?

Postby gdwtvb » Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:21 am

I'm excited about it! I am hoping that the little native becomes the base model of a Spyderco custom shop. With three choices of locks, (none, lockback, and Compression lock.) then offer three or four steels for each, some handle options and then Spyderco will have a custom option that would be legal almost anywhere in the world. Can't wait to get mine. My primary knife is a Chap, it will be nice to have something similarly sized but with a more robust build and blade.

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