Which should be the next model in Cru-carta?

[bearfacedkiller]

What about the bushcraft- that would be awesome in cru carta- it’s not all about folders!!!!!

I tried to get a Crucarta Proficient. A number of people squashed the idea due to price concerns.

[The Meat man]

Military - 9 votes vs. Para 3 - 0 votes. THIS is a GREAT forum! :)

I won't argue with that! :D

Maybe it’s because I’m new here but I don’t understand why the para 3 gets so much hate. Can someone explain? Is it because it’s had a lot of sprints in the past?

Hate? Hardly. That word is greatly overused. I think a lot of the enthusiasm, here, for the Military is that it is very under-represented among Sprints and Exclusives compared to the Para 3. And personally, I think that earth-tone Micarta and a tough steel like CPM Cru-Wear calls for a larger, more "hard use" type of knife. It has a kind of fixed blade vibe.

[Blnd]

Hi Folks!


And how about a new Cru-Carta D’Fly? :spyder:

The DF2 loses its appeal if its heavy and thick in the 5th pocket.

A Cruwear or other tough steel offering would be pretty cool though. Really add some beef to the DF2 blade. Or a Maxamet DF2. Yeah, that. :)

[ladybug93]

i guess i'm alone in thinking the manix 2 is the ultimate workhorse spyderco model and would benefit from such a configuration?

i vote for dlc and black linen micarta though instead of the satin and brown micarta of the new pm2.

[RandomNick]

I voted military, but I'd prefer the military in k390 over cruwear.

[Cl1ff]

What about the bushcraft- that would be awesome in cru carta- it’s not all about folders!!!!!

I tried to get a Crucarta Proficient. A number of people squashed the idea due to price concerns.

I think it was ultimately Sal who said it wouldn’t work out as it would be a similar price to the “NASA” Proficient. Anyway, I still like the idea.

There are many knives that would do well in this combo, but if I had to pick for something like this poll, my priority lies in designs which are most compatible by default and with the least existing variations. Hence, my aforementioned choices of the Manix XL or the upcoming Large SS Stretch.

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In my opinion, it seems the Military is the knife which would need the most changes, no matter how much I’d like it (I’m also more interested in the already existing Rex45 sprint). However, a Military 2 may be more appealing to me and easier for Spyderco to make in this configuration.

I do wonder about other fixed blade options though. It’s a great combination of materials for knives meant to be used regularly.

[Wartstein]

Military - 9 votes vs. Para 3 - 0 votes. THIS is a GREAT forum! :)

I won't argue with that! :D

Maybe it’s because I’m new here but I don’t understand why the para 3 gets so much hate. Can someone explain? Is it because it’s had a lot of sprints in the past?

The Para 3 is not my most favorite Spyderco, but I´d still take it over almost any folder from another brands in that size range.

Like others have said, for me it was just a bit surprising (and yes, perhaps a bit much) how unbelievably many variants specifically this model got, while others missed out.
For me, purely personally speaking, the Para 3 would be more of a nice niche knife, in that it is a cool "baby-version" of the PM2, but not the most perfectly designed knife for that size - mainly because it takes over some design features of the PM2, that are better suited for that one, but not the Para 3: .

- Thick bladestock, rather fine tip: For me the Para 3 blade stock is too thick, which decreases slicing capabilites and is really not necessary. The 2.5 mm of the Delica or 3.0 mm of the Sage are way strong enough, and better performers. Additionally, the Para 3 tip is pretty fine, so IF one would test the blade to the limit, the tip would probably snap long before the whole blade had a problem (Edit:What I mean by that: Imho IF a small knife has such a thick, overbuilt bladestock, then go all the way and give it a really robust tip too so one can carelessley trash on the thing (nothing I´d need though), but IF a folder has such a nice, functional, a bit finer working tip as the Para 3, give it a nice, thinner and slicey bladestock too.Would make more sense to me)
- PM2-ish handle design not perfect for a small knife: The "hook" at the end of the handle limits the available space behind the choil on the Para 3 too much, so a bit larger hands can´t get a four finger grip there but have to use the choil for that.
Knives like the Sage 5 are imho better designed here for a small knife, cause they maximize the available space behind the choil (see comparison pic at the end of my post, screenshot taken from a Nick Shabbaz vid) Also if one has to choke up anyway, the "hook" does not serve as a device that prevents slipping off the handle in the rear, cause the finger in the choil prevents that anyway
- Heavy, bulky: The Para 3 for me is pretty heavy and bulky, if compared to the Delica for example. Even the linerless lightweight Para 3 is not lighter than a Delica, despite the latter has liners, is a better slicer and has a more generous grip.

- So, conclusion: I DO like the Para 3, but I still would have figured that models like the Sage 5 would get the huge attention, and not the Para 3. Just cause performancewise I think folders like the Sage 5 are better designed for a small knife, like if thought through from scratch as a small knife, while the Para 3 is more a "scaled down" PM2.

[kobold]

I own a Para 3 Maxamet because I like Maxamet, not because I like the Para 3..

[GarageBoy]

It's cruwear - why bother with it on smaller knives? Manix xl and military for sure

[TkoK83Spy]

It's cruwear - why bother with it on smaller knives? Manix xl and military for sure

You know this place, people would go bonkers over a Ladybug with Cruwear.

[JuPaul]

Of course I voted Manix, but a Military would be pretty awesome, too. And in general I'm with Steelcity on this one: Cru-carta them all!

[TkoK83Spy]

Of course I voted Manix, but a Military would be pretty awesome, too. And in general I'm with Steelcity on this one: Cru-carta them all!

As long as it's the same micarta that came with the Shaman, that texture feels amazing in hand! Mine is now smooth, but soft too. I don't have anything else like it. I'd be in for a Millie and POSSIBLY a Manix as well (though I sold my other KC Cruwear exclusive last month)

[wirelessjunkie]

Am I crazy for wanting a CruCarta Yojimbo 2?

[attila]

Am I crazy for wanting a CruCarta Yojimbo 2?

Nope! Not crazy; genius.

[JRinFL]

There were exclusives in Cruwear for the Para 2, Para3, Manix 2, and Native 5. Any of these are the most likely "nexts" in the line, if Spyderco decides to expand it. That said, even though I have little interest in one and still vote for the Native, maybe the Military would make the most impact?

[aicolainen]

Military - 9 votes vs. Para 3 - 0 votes. THIS is a GREAT forum! :)

I won't argue with that! :D

Maybe it’s because I’m new here but I don’t understand why the para 3 gets so much hate. Can someone explain? Is it because it’s had a lot of sprints in the past?

The Para 3 is not my most favorite Spyderco, but I´d still take it over almost any folder from another brands in that size range.

Like others have said, for me it was just a bit surprising (and yes, perhaps a bit much) how unbelievably many variants specifically this model got, while others missed out.
For me, purely personally speaking, the Para 3 would be more of a nice niche knife, in that it is a cool "baby-version" of the PM2, but not the most perfectly designed knife for that size - mainly because it takes over some design features of the PM2, that are better suited for that one, but not the Para 3: .

- Thick bladestock, rather fine tip: For me the Para 3 blade stock is too thick, which decreases slicing capabilites and is really not necessary. The 2.5 mm of the Delica or 3.0 mm of the Sage are way strong enough, and better performers. Additionally, the Para 3 tip is pretty fine, so IF one would test the blade to the limit, the tip would probably snap long before the whole blade had a problem (Edit:What I mean by that: Imho IF a small knife has such a thick, overbuilt bladestock, then go all the way and give it a really robust tip too so one can carelessley trash on the thing (nothing I´d need though), but IF a folder has such a nice, functional, a bit finer working tip as the Para 3, give it a nice, thinner and slicey bladestock too.Would make more sense to me)
- PM2-ish handle design not perfect for a small knife: The "hook" at the end of the handle limits the available space behind the choil on the Para 3 too much, so a bit larger hands can´t get a four finger grip there but have to use the choil for that.
Knives like the Sage 5 are imho better designed here for a small knife, cause they maximize the available space behind the choil (see comparison pic at the end of my post, screenshot taken from a Nick Shabbaz vid) Also if one has to choke up anyway, the "hook" does not serve as a device that prevents slipping off the handle in the rear, cause the finger in the choil prevents that anyway
- Heavy, bulky: The Para 3 for me is pretty heavy and bulky, if compared to the Delica for example. Even the linerless lightweight Para 3 is not lighter than a Delica, despite the latter has liners, is a better slicer and has a more generous grip.

- So, conclusion: I DO like the Para 3, but I still would have figured that models like the Sage 5 would get the huge attention, and not the Para 3. Just cause performancewise I think folders like the Sage 5 are better designed for a small knife, like if thought through from scratch as a small knife, while the Para 3 is more a "scaled down" PM2.

Absolutely agree.
I'm not much into big knives, so when I got my first PM2 I immediately wanted to see it done in a smaller version.
Rumors were flying around for along time, but at a certain point it seemed so certain to happen, I just sold my PM2 in anticipation of the perfect compact comp lock EDC folder.
What we got wasn't exactly what I had anticipated, for much of the reasons you describe. Still I've ended up with two of them, mostly because of all the variations and wanting to try different steels, but I've also learned to like it a bit more over time.
For all that is wrong about the P3 (IMO), I still believe the PM2 is too big for me, so I voted P3.

[Haunted House]

PM 2 Tanto :spyder:

[JuPaul]

i guess i'm alone in thinking the manix 2 is the ultimate workhorse spyderco model and would benefit from such a configuration?

i vote for dlc and black linen micarta though instead of the satin and brown micarta of the new pm2.

You are not alone!

[ladybug93]

i guess i'm alone in thinking the manix 2 is the ultimate workhorse spyderco model and would benefit from such a configuration?

i vote for dlc and black linen micarta though instead of the satin and brown micarta of the new pm2.

You are not alone!

thanks. when i voted for the manix 2, there was only one vote. i was pretty shocked that i was the only one that had voted for it out of all the votes that had been placed. the manix 2 is such an underrated model.

[brancron]

The Endura!