Spyderco MSRP Increase for 2021?

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Spyderco MSRP Increase for 2021?

Postby captnvegtble » Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:41 pm

I'm curious if Spyderco is planning a 2021 MSRP increase across their products as they've done in years past to adjust for increasing costs in production?

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Re: Spyderco MSRP Increase for 2021?

Postby ladybug93 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:57 pm

i would bet on it. their production costs increase on january 1st each year.

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Postby Mushroom » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:14 pm

I know I'm not alone in hoping it doesn't happen again this year but it seems inevitable.

Also hoping MAP doesn't increase again. :o
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Re: Spyderco MSRP Increase for 2021?

Postby JohnDoe99 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:26 pm

ladybug93 wrote:
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i would bet on it. their production costs increase on january 1st each year.
The price control was instituted to combat ebay and Amazon and prevent retailer constriction.

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Re: Spyderco MSRP Increase for 2021?

Postby JohnDoe99 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:31 pm

captnvegtble wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:41 pm
I'm curious if Spyderco is planning a 2021 MSRP increase across their products as they've done in years past to adjust for increasing costs in production?
It was never because of production costs, and you wouldn't install a price control for "production costs" anyway. The price floor was instituted because ebay and amazon were growing too powerful. You only uniformly regulate a market like that to counter a very specific external threat.

If the other retailers died, as they surely would, then ebay and amazon control all delivery, and they are both profoundly anti-gun. Guns and knives overlap, so there is every reason to believe they would leverage that power "politically."

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Re: Spyderco MSRP Increase for 2021?

Postby captnvegtble » Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:47 pm

JohnDoe99 wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:31 pm
captnvegtble wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:41 pm
I'm curious if Spyderco is planning a 2021 MSRP increase across their products as they've done in years past to adjust for increasing costs in production?
It was never because of production costs, and you wouldn't install a price control for "production costs" anyway. The price floor was instituted because ebay and amazon were growing too powerful. You only uniformly regulate a market like that to counter a very specific external threat.

If the other retailers died, as they surely would, then ebay and amazon control all delivery, and they are both profoundly anti-gun. Guns and knives overlap, so there is every reason to believe they would leverage that power "politically."
We're talking about two different things. Spyderco implemented the MAP to to help the end-line retailer and smaller businesses remain competitive (30% of MSRP is the MAP). What I'm asking about are annual production cost increases which have led Spyderco to increase MSRP by a certain percentage almost every year for the last few years... they didn't last year, but I suspect they might raise MSRP again come January 1, 2021... that's what I'm asking about.

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Postby nerdlock » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:08 am

I hope not... prices for the production offerings are already high as it is. I shudder to think how high the Sprints and the Exclusives are going to cost if an increase is implemented.
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Re: Spyderco MSRP Increase for 2021?

Postby kennethsime » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:33 am

As the manager of a small business, I sincerely hope they do increase their prices in order to maintain their margins, and keep their suppliers and employees happy.

It's probably not the case that each and every Spyderco supplier increases their pricing on January 1st, though some may. It is the case though that small increases happen here or there every year, employees deserve raises here or there, and on top of everything, inflation goes up 3-5% each year.

Spyderco offers an excellent value with most of their products. I'm happy to pay a fair price for them.
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Re: Spyderco MSRP Increase for 2021?

Postby archangel » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:41 am

Noooooooo, please no........
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Postby bearfacedkiller » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:54 am

I was wondering the same thing. The drastic price increases over the past 5 years has reduced my Spyderco consumption considerably.
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Re: Spyderco MSRP Increase for 2021?

Postby Evil D » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:18 am

I expect the cost of MOST things to be increasing as companies struggle to stay afloat during this Covid crap.
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Re: Spyderco MSRP Increase for 2021?

Postby Sumdumguy » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:24 am

bearfacedkiller wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:54 am
I was wondering the same thing. The drastic price increases over the past 5 years has reduced my Spyderco consumption considerably.
Agreed. I'm slowly getting priced out of new models.

I have to hunt sales, deals and second hand markets to play with what I do. I would not be able to experience half of that, at dealer prices.

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Re: Spyderco MSRP Increase for 2021?

Postby nerdlock » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:36 am

Evil D wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:18 am
I expect the cost of MOST things to be increasing as companies struggle to stay afloat during this Covid crap.

With almost sold out dealer exclusives at the time of drop, sprint runs, and in-demand knives out of stock indicating the high level of demand, and even the seconds sale selling out only on the second day of three days, I doubt our beloved knife company would qualify as struggling to stay afloat. 😊
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Re: Spyderco MSRP Increase for 2021?

Postby nerdlock » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:45 am

Sumdumguy wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:24 am
bearfacedkiller wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:54 am
I was wondering the same thing. The drastic price increases over the past 5 years has reduced my Spyderco consumption considerably.
Agreed. I'm slowly getting priced out of new models.

I have to hunt sales, deals and second hand markets to play with what I do. I would not be able to experience half of that, at dealer prices.

Same here. And most of the time, it is even more expensive on the secondary market, especially with dealer exclusives. But you can get fair deals below retail pricing for some decent used models. Sometimes this is the most economical way of getting a good knife without spending too much especially in these economically uncertain times.

Just hoping for no price increases. Or if there is, some running changes to equate cost increase to knife value, like tighter centering tolerances, or maybe rounding off the knife spines or something to that regard. I'm just musing and these are petty opinions and of course this is first and foremost a business, and I appreciate that we fans are spoiled with steel choices that are not always available from the competition and that is something that will always be unique to Spyderco.
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Re: Spyderco MSRP Increase for 2021?

Postby James Y » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:53 am

I sincerely hope not, but it’s inevitable that prices for all things are going to increase.

Increases in knife prices will probably not affect me much, because every knife I buy could be my last. I purchase very few knives anymore, even if there’s always something new that grabs my attention. I only bought one Spyderco knife this year, an Endela (my only other knife purchase was a Victorinox Alox Minichamp), and I have gone years without buying any new knives. I don’t go after all the sprints; in fact, the only sprint I’m interested in is the upcoming C-60. But even me going for that is not a 100% certainty.

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Re: Spyderco MSRP Increase for 2021?

Postby VooDooChild » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:03 pm

Didnt we get an official confirmation the last 2 years? I remember a price increase being confirmed or announced or something.

If prices go up, they go up... I would just like to know because it may effect whether I want to preorder some models before the start of the new year.
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Re: Spyderco MSRP Increase for 2021?

Postby Mushroom » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:43 am

Just received an email from Knifecenter saying this is the last chance to get a Spyderco (or benchmade) at the current pricing before the price increases. :o

It's happening.
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Re: Spyderco MSRP Increase for 2021?

Postby bouhunter » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:08 am

Mushroom wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:43 am
Just received an email from Knifecenter saying this is the last chance to get a Spyderco (or benchmade) at the current pricing before the price increases. :o

It's happening.
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Re: Spyderco MSRP Increase for 2021?

Postby jdw » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:19 am

I am being quickly priced out of the Spydie market. I agree completely that they offer a quality product at a reasonable cost for them, but at this point I already have more Spydercos than I can use and buying them as part of my hobby is becoming financially unrealistic for me.
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Re: Spyderco MSRP Increase for 2021?

Postby araneae » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:33 am

It would be nice to have official word on what to expect. Its getting a bit unsustainable for me with MAP increases and regular price hikes. This year was mostly sprints that I really "had" to have, I don't think I bought a single new regular production model. Snagged a couple seconds from the sale. I have cut way back on Spydies, their cost is growing disproportionately to my income. To be honest, its getting a lot easier to buy Civivi's or Kizers lately.
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