What the heck is this??
What the heck is this??
A friend at work came down with this thing today...nothing I've ever seen before. The paperwork it came with said it's an S90V blade with TI scales. I suspect it's a fake. He said he got it off of some ebay or facebook group? I've never seen anything like it. Anybody else see these around anywhere?
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Re: What the heck is this??
I suspect it's fake. Looks interesting, though.
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Re: What the heck is this??
That’s absolutely a fake.
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Re: What the heck is this??
It could be an elaborate custom job, I’ve seen a lot of barely recognizable spydercos out on the interwebs. And all those parts certainly exist on their own. But I’m suspicious about anything that comes from ebay, so I’d say guilty til’ proven innocent in this situation.
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Re: What the heck is this??
Abyss_Fish wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:17 pmIt could be an elaborate custom job, I’ve seen a lot of barely recognizable spydercos out on the interwebs. And all those parts certainly exist on their own. But I’m suspicious about anything that comes from ebay, so I’d say guilty til’ proven innocent in this situation.
Pretty much what I was going to say. It could be a custom job along the lines of this
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Re: What the heck is this??
One vote for custom PM2. The bug lanyard seems like an unnecessary (and costly) extra step for a fake, unless your buddy put it on.
Does the grind cross the spideyhole in a consistent location on a given knife model? The grind on the PM2 in my pocket covers more of the hole than on that one.
Does the grind cross the spideyhole in a consistent location on a given knife model? The grind on the PM2 in my pocket covers more of the hole than on that one.
Re: What the heck is this??
Cerakote and custom scales could make that a reality but fake is also likely.
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Re: What the heck is this??
It looks like a complete fake. The blade laks the "Spyderco + type of steel" engraving.
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Re: What the heck is this??
Yikes, idk! Hah, I realize that there is a lot of customization that goes on with Spydercos these days, especially with PM2s.. the scales are obviously aftermarket (are there no threaded pocket clip inserts, or is that just weird lighting?), so that is what it is I guess.. the "custom" blade coating covers any Spyderco markings (if they existed) and does not appear to be ground especially well.. I may be wrong, but every instinct I have is shouting "FAKE!!" The social media aspect of it seems pretty suspect all-around to me. Maybe the paperwork authenticates the work/mods/steel/etc in some way we're not seeing? Hope he didn't pay too much for it!
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..well, that escalated quickly..
..well, that escalated quickly..
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Re: What the heck is this??
Good lord guys, it’s not a custom job!! The screw holes are in the wrong position on the scales! It’s so clearly a fake it’s not even funny.
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Re: What the heck is this??
TkoK83Spy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:12 pmA friend at work came down with this thing today...nothing I've ever seen before. The paperwork it came with said it's an S90V blade with TI scales. I suspect it's a fake. He said he got it off of some ebay or facebook group? I've never seen anything like it. Anybody else see these around anywhere?
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Documentation can be falsified even more easily. It is much easier to produce false documents (with a computer, a photocomposition program and a good printer, even banknotes are counterfeited) than it is to reproduce a blade.
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Re: What the heck is this??
Knives like that make me wonder why I don't spend every nickel on mods.
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Re: What the heck is this??
Yea I instantly thought of fake as well. He spent $120 on it, so it sucked to tell him...but, it's the same guy that I posted about here... viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87646
I guess he just doesn't learn! Should know he can come to me with any questions prior to buying something! Even if I don't know the answer, I know I've got all of you to fall back on.
I guess he just doesn't learn! Should know he can come to me with any questions prior to buying something! Even if I don't know the answer, I know I've got all of you to fall back on.
15 's in 10 different steels
1 - Bradford Guardian 3 / Vanadis 4E Wharnie
1 - Monterey Bay Knives Slayback Flipper / ZDP 189
1 - CRK Small Sebenza 31/Macassar Ebony Inlays
1 - CRK Large Inkosi Insingo/ Black Micarta Inlays
1 - CRK Small Sebenza 31 Insingo/Magnacut
-Rick
1 - Bradford Guardian 3 / Vanadis 4E Wharnie
1 - Monterey Bay Knives Slayback Flipper / ZDP 189
1 - CRK Small Sebenza 31/Macassar Ebony Inlays
1 - CRK Large Inkosi Insingo/ Black Micarta Inlays
1 - CRK Small Sebenza 31 Insingo/Magnacut
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Re: What the heck is this??
They're in the exact same position as they are on mine. Maybe I got a fake at the seconds sale?RadioactiveSpyder wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:57 pmGood lord guys, it’s not a custom job!! The screw holes are in the wrong position on the scales! It’s so clearly a fake it’s not even funny.
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Re: What the heck is this??
The screw holes on the pivot side are the dead giveaway. They are: too large overall, the bottom two are spaced too close to the pivot, and the top hole is too close to the edge of the scale.
The other obvious (and awful) giveaway is that blade. Note the shape of the ricasso line as it goes through the Spyderhole, clearly the wrong angle compared to a true PM2. I checked my forum S90V blade and it has the same straight ricasso line.
Leading to the claim it’s a S90V blade. Those have been offered twice as a PM2: the original peel ply CF sprint that goes for $400-$500 on the secondary market and the 2018 Spyderco forum PM2. I just mentioned I double-checked my forum S90V blade and that whole straight ricasso deal... The forum PM2 also has quite a bit of text engraving on the blade, plus obviously a Spyderco bug logo, none of which is evident on this blade (some subtle hint of it would likely still be visible under the cerakote).
Glad you scored a factory second PM2, they’re awesome knives. I’ve had close to 30 of them now and know them literally like the back of my hand. The pic the OP posted instantaneously said fake to me, but that’s just my (extensive) experience. Cheers, Radioactive
The other obvious (and awful) giveaway is that blade. Note the shape of the ricasso line as it goes through the Spyderhole, clearly the wrong angle compared to a true PM2. I checked my forum S90V blade and it has the same straight ricasso line.
Leading to the claim it’s a S90V blade. Those have been offered twice as a PM2: the original peel ply CF sprint that goes for $400-$500 on the secondary market and the 2018 Spyderco forum PM2. I just mentioned I double-checked my forum S90V blade and that whole straight ricasso deal... The forum PM2 also has quite a bit of text engraving on the blade, plus obviously a Spyderco bug logo, none of which is evident on this blade (some subtle hint of it would likely still be visible under the cerakote).
Glad you scored a factory second PM2, they’re awesome knives. I’ve had close to 30 of them now and know them literally like the back of my hand. The pic the OP posted instantaneously said fake to me, but that’s just my (extensive) experience. Cheers, Radioactive
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Re: What the heck is this??
They need to take all of those jerks who counterfeit Spyderco knives and give them some really hard time. Especially anyone who attempts to desecrate the Great Spyder Factory like this dunce bucket tried to do. I consider that a more serious crime than counterfeiting money. Great Spyderco models look much more aesthetically pleasing than any Federal Reserve Notes ever did. So the punishment should fit the crime.
The unmitigated gall that some of these low lives have stooped to :mad:
The unmitigated gall that some of these low lives have stooped to :mad:
Re: What the heck is this??
It's genuine, it's been heavily customized, and it's a pre-CQI example with the more slanted plunge grind.
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Re: What the heck is this??
Nope, all S90V blades have that K390-style straighter ricasso line. This is the first S90V blade:
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Re: What the heck is this??
So fake. Just look at the choil and ramp jimping in the OP pic. That alone screams fake.