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Vanadis 8 - Better than CPM-10V

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New article about Uddeholm Vanadis 8, a recent steel developed to compete with CPM-10V. Uddeholm claims a massive 3.7x improvement in toughness over 10V! I tested their toughness claims as well as measured hardness and edge retention. And I wrote about the history and development that led to Vanadis 8. https://knifesteelnerds.com/2020/12/07/ ... n-cpm-10v/
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Looks like a winner. I'd still rather see some Vanadis 4 Extra folders myself, but thats me. CPM-4V is popular enough that there is no reason to not throw out a few V4E blades to masses.
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steelcity16 wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:23 am
Looks like a winner. I'd still rather see some Vanadis 4 Extra folders myself, but thats me. CPM-4V is popular enough that there is no reason to not throw out a few V4E blades to masses.
I didn’t say there is no use for Vanadis 4 Extra. I said that Vanadis 8 is better than 10V. There is a reason I break out my recommendations by category.
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Larrin wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:27 am
steelcity16 wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:23 am
Looks like a winner. I'd still rather see some Vanadis 4 Extra folders myself, but thats me. CPM-4V is popular enough that there is no reason to not throw out a few V4E blades to masses.
I didn’t say there is no use for Vanadis 4 Extra. I said that Vanadis 8 is better than 10V. There is a reason I break out my recommendations by category.

I know, I wasn't arguing. :) Just stating my preferences. Thanks for the informative articles as always!
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B,b,but 10 is larger than 8! :D
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Uddeholm Vanadis 8 looks like the bees knees! It's right there with K390 and 20CV.
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Come on Vanadis 8 PM2!
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Fireman wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:48 pm
Larrin
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I will think about it
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steelcity16 wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:23 am
Looks like a winner. I'd still rather see some Vanadis 4 Extra folders myself, but thats me. CPM-4V is popular enough that there is no reason to not throw out a few V4E blades to masses.
We get it, you like 3v,4v,Cruwear! :D
BTW: how did those steels become your favorite?

Thanks Larrin, for giving us another steel to lust for!
What's the corrosion resistance similar to?
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Larrin wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:51 am
Fireman wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:48 pm
Larrin
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Maybe Superman’s body but just the glasses?
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Fireman wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:44 pm
Maybe Superman’s body but just the glasses?
Superman was the “Man of Steel”. Does this make you the “Dr. of Steel?”
I believe I was made a doctor of steel by my PhD diploma.
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Larrin wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:38 pm
Fireman wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:44 pm
Maybe Superman’s body but just the glasses?
Superman was the “Man of Steel”. Does this make you the “Dr. of Steel?”
I believe I was made a doctor of steel by my PhD diploma.
Lol. Yes, I saw that you were a PHD thus the genesis of the joke. I would want to trademark the “Dr. of Steel” if I was in your shoes. It’s catchy. What I really want to know is what PM steel are you alcheming for all your steel nerd minions? What is your “Ideal steel”? I know there are no solutions, only trade offs with the occasional unicorn. Are you going to have your own you tube channel?
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Fireman wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:20 pm
Larrin wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:38 pm
Fireman wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:44 pm
Maybe Superman’s body but just the glasses?
Superman was the “Man of Steel”. Does this make you the “Dr. of Steel?”
I believe I was made a doctor of steel by my PhD diploma.
Lol. Yes, I saw that you were a PHD thus the genesis of the joke. I would want to trademark the “Dr. of Steel” if I was in your shoes. It’s catchy. What I really want to know is what PM steel are you alcheming for all your steel nerd minions? What is your “Ideal steel”? I know there are no solutions, only trade offs with the occasional unicorn. Are you going to have your own you tube channel?
The best balance of properties is in the CPM-CruWear/Vanadis 4 Extra/4V range. That gives very good toughness along with good wear resistance and fine microstructure. 4V can be used with everything from competition choppers (very popular with those) to very fine slicers with high hardness. The downside is they are not stainless. We need a stainless in that property range. A stainless in the 3V property range would be great as well.

I have considered doing a YouTube channel but I don’t have the time to dedicate to making it what I would want it to be.
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Larrin wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:56 pm
Fireman wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:20 pm
Larrin wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:38 pm
Fireman wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:44 pm
Maybe Superman’s body but just the glasses?
Superman was the “Man of Steel”. Does this make you the “Dr. of Steel?”
I believe I was made a doctor of steel by my PhD diploma.
Lol. Yes, I saw that you were a PHD thus the genesis of the joke. I would want to trademark the “Dr. of Steel” if I was in your shoes. It’s catchy. What I really want to know is what PM steel are you alcheming for all your steel nerd minions? What is your “Ideal steel”? I know there are no solutions, only trade offs with the occasional unicorn. Are you going to have your own you tube channel?
The best balance of properties is in the CPM-CruWear/Vanadis 4 Extra/4V range. That gives very good toughness along with good wear resistance and fine microstructure. 4V can be used with everything from competition choppers (very popular with those) to very fine slicers with high hardness. The downside is they are not stainless. We need a stainless in that property range. A stainless in the 3V property range would be great as well.

I have considered doing a YouTube channel but I don’t have the time to dedicate to making it what I would want it to be.
Thanks for that great info! So, you deny that you are working on your own powdered steel? Will there be no CPM Larrinibium? Regarding YouTube, maybe start by going on others you tube channels as a guest and then start your own later? Nick Shabaz recommended your book, perhaps he would be a good one to start on.
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Did a few videos with Dr Thomas.







Should have another out soon that I'm editing now where I asked Larrin about future on stainless knife steels which should be very exciting.

Fireman wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:33 pm
Larrin wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:56 pm
Fireman wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:20 pm
Larrin wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:38 pm

I believe I was made a doctor of steel by my PhD diploma.
Lol. Yes, I saw that you were a PHD thus the genesis of the joke. I would want to trademark the “Dr. of Steel” if I was in your shoes. It’s catchy. What I really want to know is what PM steel are you alcheming for all your steel nerd minions? What is your “Ideal steel”? I know there are no solutions, only trade offs with the occasional unicorn. Are you going to have your own you tube channel?
The best balance of properties is in the CPM-CruWear/Vanadis 4 Extra/4V range. That gives very good toughness along with good wear resistance and fine microstructure. 4V can be used with everything from competition choppers (very popular with those) to very fine slicers with high hardness. The downside is they are not stainless. We need a stainless in that property range. A stainless in the 3V property range would be great as well.

I have considered doing a YouTube channel but I don’t have the time to dedicate to making it what I would want it to be.
Thanks for that great info! So, you deny that you are working on your own powdered steel? Will there be no CPM Larrinibium? Regarding YouTube, maybe start by going on others you tube channels as a guest and then start your own later? Nick Shabaz recommended your book, perhaps he would be a good one to start on.
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Fireman wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:33 pm
Thanks for that great info! So, you deny that you are working on your own powdered steel? Will there be no CPM Larrinibium? Regarding YouTube, maybe start by going on others you tube channels as a guest and then start your own later? Nick Shabaz recommended your book, perhaps he would be a good one to start on.

There are rumors ;)

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Hey Larrin,

Excellent as usual.

I heard a rumor about a Larrin steel? Any thoughts to share? I want to put in for first dibs, if nobody else has?.

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B3
Thanks for the reply
Awesome that you got to interview him.
Thanks for sharing.
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Deadboxhero wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:23 am
Did a few videos with Dr Thomas.







Should have another out soon that I'm editing now where I asked Larrin about future on stainless knife steels which should be very exciting.

Fireman wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:33 pm
Larrin wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:56 pm
Fireman wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:20 pm

Lol. Yes, I saw that you were a PHD thus the genesis of the joke. I would want to trademark the “Dr. of Steel” if I was in your shoes. It’s catchy. What I really want to know is what PM steel are you alcheming for all your steel nerd minions? What is your “Ideal steel”? I know there are no solutions, only trade offs with the occasional unicorn. Are you going to have your own you tube channel?
The best balance of properties is in the CPM-CruWear/Vanadis 4 Extra/4V range. That gives very good toughness along with good wear resistance and fine microstructure. 4V can be used with everything from competition choppers (very popular with those) to very fine slicers with high hardness. The downside is they are not stainless. We need a stainless in that property range. A stainless in the 3V property range would be great as well.

I have considered doing a YouTube channel but I don’t have the time to dedicate to making it what I would want it to be.
Thanks for that great info! So, you deny that you are working on your own powdered steel? Will there be no CPM Larrinibium? Regarding YouTube, maybe start by going on others you tube channels as a guest and then start your own later? Nick Shabaz recommended your book, perhaps he would be a good one to start on.
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I would love to see how he could modify the LC200N
bbturbodad wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:12 am
Fireman wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:33 pm
Thanks for that great info! So, you deny that you are working on your own powdered steel? Will there be no CPM Larrinibium? Regarding YouTube, maybe start by going on others you tube channels as a guest and then start your own later? Nick Shabaz recommended your book, perhaps he would be a good one to start on.

There are rumors ;)

sal wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:40 pm
Hey Larrin,

Excellent as usual.

I heard a rumor about a Larrin steel? Any thoughts to share? I want to put in for first dibs, if nobody else has?.

sal
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Fireman wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:02 pm
I would love to see how he could modify the LC200N
bbturbodad wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:12 am
Fireman wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:33 pm
Thanks for that great info! So, you deny that you are working on your own powdered steel? Will there be no CPM Larrinibium? Regarding YouTube, maybe start by going on others you tube channels as a guest and then start your own later? Nick Shabaz recommended your book, perhaps he would be a good one to start on.

There are rumors ;)

sal wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:40 pm
Hey Larrin,

Excellent as usual.

I heard a rumor about a Larrin steel? Any thoughts to share? I want to put in for first dibs, if nobody else has?.

sal


I think Bohler already did that. :D
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