Proto Dyad?

[Candyman]

Just saw this up on EBay and was curious whether anyone knows anything about it? Looks pretty sketchy but I’ve been wrong before.

https://imgur.com/a/8LaKZWA

[austrian_spyder_fan]

I also saw it today.
Sal can you tell us something about it?

[JuPaul]

The "found it at a flea market" part would sure give me pause. But I know nothing about the model, so that's just a feeling.

[Mushroom]

Interesting piece! Would be curious to hear more about it myself.

[JD Spydo]

No I don't trust that one at all. I've been a Dyad fanatic since the early to mid 2000 decade. I've never even seen a prototype with anything other than a sheepsfoot serrated blade. Even the PE blade just doesn't pass the smell test. And if this is a true prototype of a new model Dyad the price of $88 seems to be way too low IMO.

There used to be a guy who sold many vintage Spyders on Ebay back around 2004 to 2006. His Ebay name was "bayagmorin" to the best of my memory. He told me that he had a blue handled C-44 Dyad with ATS-55 blade steel which is what the original C-44 and C-36 Dyads had. And he told me via PM email that he had turned down offers of $300+ for that one. He also told me that it was a prototype that had been at some knife shows in the early 2000s.

I tend to believe the guy because I bought several Spyders from him during that time period and I never ever had him lie to me about any deal we made on Ebay or on the side. He sold several dozen vintage Spyderco models in that time period.

This one displayed stinks like a road kill skunk to me :rolleyes:

[JD Spydo]

The "found it at a flea market" part would sure give me pause. But I know nothing about the model, so that's just a feeling.

I couldn't agree with you more. Because if that is an authentic prototype new Dyad model I seriously doubt if that thing would have ever been at any flea market. Some insider would have been all over that one. But again the blade designs to me are a dead give away.

Every Prototype Spyderco Dyad ( including all the Junior and Micro models) all had sheepsfoot SE blades, no exceptions. I would have to hear from the General himself on this one to believe otherwise.

[joeldworkin307]

I know the seller from my Colorado swap meet and pawn shop days. I once saw him selling a knife I had passed on at a pawn shop as new and it most definitely was not. When I asked him about it he banned me from bidding on his auctions. Still banned, no regrets. Not trustworthy.

[sal]

Hard to tell. We had a lot of crooked crew "back in the day", from the manager on down. It "looks" like one of my designs. I'd like to buy it, but I'm travelling right now. If one of you wants to buy it and send it to me, I'll "gift" you a nice knife to go with the cost of the knife?

sal

[Candyman]

I’ll make that happen as long as the price doesn’t get out of control.

[JD Spydo]

Hard to tell. We had a lot of crooked crew "back in the day", from the manager on down. It "looks" like one of my designs. I'd like to buy it, but I'm travelling right now. If one of you wants to buy it and send it to me, I'll "gift" you a nice knife to go with the cost of the knife?

sal

Well Mr. Glesser I'm shocked and surprised to hear that. Because I thought all of your Dyad designs had Sheepsfoot serrated blades :confused: . But I would be the last one on the planet to differ with you. Actually I hope that the future of "Two-Bladed folders" is still alive and well. Because I've been a big Dyad fan for years now. Especially the C-44.

I guess I'm just naturally skeptical when I see something like this because I've had two good friends of mine in the past two years end up buying what we later discovered to be counterfeit Spyderco knives at our local Gun & Knife shows here in Kansas City. And a couple of those fake units had pretty decent blade steel which I found extremely weird. I guess the world of counterfeit knock-offs must really be changing?

[Sumdumguy]

Dangit guys...

I've been watching this for a week and you have to go and drop the dime on me!

[Candyman]

Welp, I sure didn’t grab that one. Hahaha.
Went for $676!

Rich

[Sumdumguy]

Very not happy.

[JD Spydo]

Welp, I sure didn’t grab that one. Hahaha.
Went for $676!

Rich

That blows me away. With not even being authenticated bringing that kind of change. It tells me that some insiders or those that Mr. Glesser was talking about must have known for sure that this knife was a "Real McCoy".

I'm to the point at this time I've got two dealers that I completely trust to purchase any new Spyderco knife. Also I do from time to time buy from SFO on occasion. It is really getting to be a mine field out there.

[Sumdumguy]

Welp, I sure didn’t grab that one. Hahaha.
Went for $676!

Rich

That blows me away. With not even being authenticated bringing that kind of change. It tells me that some insiders or those that Mr. Glesser was talking about must have known for sure that this knife was a "Real McCoy".

I'm to the point at this time I've got two dealers that I completely trust to purchase any new Spyderco knife. Also I do from time to time buy from SFO on occasion. It is really getting to be a mine field out there.

I blame Candyman, for starting this thread. >:(

Ruined my Christmas present... Oh well, on to the next one.

[austrian_spyder_fan]

Maybe to many members did a bid for Sal? :confused:

[Evil D]

I'm betting the cost went up due to this thread.

[koenigsegg]

Did they make production clips that looked like that with a spoon covering the screw? Interesting I wish one of us would speak up if you got it lol

[RadioactiveSpyder]

Wow, what a crazy looking item Rich and Sal! I looked at all the pics on the eBay listing (no, I didn’t buy it) and it’s a really fascinating Frankenstein creation - it looks like either a PM2-sized blade or maybe a modified Military blade for the PE side and something like a SE Stretch for the other side. Weird thing is that it’s a liner lock and not a backlock like the Japanese Dyads - sort of like someone (Sal) took a Military and added the spacers and SE blade with another liner lock (two Millies smooshed together). Spyderco definitely had a model or two with clips like that, I’ll look up the US patent number stamped on the clip. The blue G10 when viewed sideways doesn’t look like anything ever used in Golden (it has alternating blue and black layers) but being a prototype, the maker could have just grabbed something available in the shop. I’m honestly a bit stumped by it - if pressed I’d say it wasn’t legit but I’ve often been wrong before. It does seem to lock up OK which adds to the mystery . Cheers, Radioactive

Edit: I looked up US Patent 4347665 and it is one of Sal’s general pocket knife patents filed in 1981, so that lends to it being more legitimate as an actual prototype in my mind. (The patent doesn’t mention anything specific about the eBay knife of course, just the clip.)

[SG89]

I often see spyderco items on ebay that i suspect were stolen from the factory... Unfinished blades, liners, other random parts. This isn't the first likely prototype I've seen on there either. Sorry to hear the factory had some bad eggs working there in the past.