Lightest Weight Spydercos...?
Lightest Weight Spydercos...?
Did Spyderco make any other knives as light as the Gayle Bradley Air (1.2 oz, glass fiber handles, ti liners, 2.6" M4 blade)? While we are on the topic, what would be the lightest weight choices from Spyderco with a blade length around 3"? I'm trying to become an ultralightweight backpacker, and every ounce counts...
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Bolster wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:59 pmDid Spyderco make any other knives as light as the Gayle Bradley Air (1.2 oz, glass fiber handles, ti liners, 2.6" M4 blade)? While we are on the topic, what would be the lightest weight choices from Spyderco with a blade length around 3"? I'm trying to become an ultralightweight backpacker, and every ounce counts...
Well, on your second question:
If you want to go lightweight (and, additional bonus perhaps, rustproof) the FRN Salt series (linerless!) is the way to go:
- Exactly your desired 3 " blade length: Salt 2, 2.1 oz (H1 steel)
- Though generally and especially for backpacking I´d size up: The new Pac Salt ffg in LC200N: Just 2.6 oz for 3.78" of very slicey blade
- Or you wait for the most likely upcoming Salt 2 ffg in LC 200N: It should be even lighter than the above mentioned H1 variant (due to ffg vs hollow sabre grind)
- And if you want liners: Don´t overlook the regular Delica: Just 2.3 oz, and with that even a tad lighter than the linerless Para 3 LW or Native 5 LW (and for me personally the a bit better knife too)
- EDIT: Forgot the amazing Centofante 3: 2.5 oz for a bit over 3" of actual cutting edge (bladelength 3.14)
Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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The Ark is under an ounce.
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The ARK was my first thought as well if your looking for a lightweight knife for backpacking.
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If you are going ultralight the most you will need a knife for is cutting cheese or opening food wrappers. No minimum length needed there. Something as simple as a ladybug would meet your needs. I use a Dragonfly 2 and it does EVERYTHING I’ve ever needed a knife for when backpacking, even when I bring my fishing gear.Bolster wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:59 pmDid Spyderco make any other knives as light as the Gayle Bradley Air (1.2 oz, glass fiber handles, ti liners, 2.6" M4 blade)? While we are on the topic, what would be the lightest weight choices from Spyderco with a blade length around 3"? I'm trying to become an ultralightweight backpacker, and every ounce counts...
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I’ll emphasize what’s already been stated that the knife that likely fits your application best is either a Salt 2 or Pacific Salt 2, especially the new green versions with LC200N steel. Very lightweight linerless handles, tough corrosion proof steel, functional design. The Centofante 3 is a criminally underrated knife as well, but in my mind it fits a more formal application than outdoorsy.
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If you wanted to shave a few grams you could probably take off the pocket clip and carry it in the pocket. I’m not sure if the given weight of the ARK is with or without the sheath, my assumption is that the weight is without the sheath, in which case you might end up being able to carry a Salt 2 without a clip at a lighter weight than the ARK with the sheath it would need to be carried safely, and still end up with an (arguably) more capable knife. This is an assumption and opinion though.
*EDIT* The Spyderco website says the ARK with the sheath is 2.0oz (57 grams) and it has an edge length of 2.10”. The Salt 2 is 2.1oz (60 grams) and has an edge length of 2.65”. The handle is also gonna be longer and more hand filling i.e. more comfortable during use IMO. As was stated, the LC200N version will likely be even lighter with its full flat grind and may end up being at the same 2.0oz mark as the ARK. Dropping the clip and carrying it in the pocket would likely give you an even lighter package than the ARK with its sheath.
*EDIT* The Spyderco website says the ARK with the sheath is 2.0oz (57 grams) and it has an edge length of 2.10”. The Salt 2 is 2.1oz (60 grams) and has an edge length of 2.65”. The handle is also gonna be longer and more hand filling i.e. more comfortable during use IMO. As was stated, the LC200N version will likely be even lighter with its full flat grind and may end up being at the same 2.0oz mark as the ARK. Dropping the clip and carrying it in the pocket would likely give you an even lighter package than the ARK with its sheath.
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ARK is probably the lightest that you can really use.
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ARK plus sheath comes in at 2.0 oz according to Spyderco.
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Salt 2 comes in at 2.1 oz. and you could still take off the pocket clip for extra weight reduction. Throw that in the hip belt of your pack and you’re good to go!
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Thanks for the replies, folks. I've had some exposure to H1 and am frankly not a fan of its edge holding capabilities for an extended trip, and I'd not be carrying a sharpening stone. I'd carry a bit more weight, if I must, for a steel that holds its edge better. Is LC200N pretty good for edge holding?
I own the Air and its M4 steel has been wonderful...basically sharpen it, and forget about it for a month. But I'd like to have a little more blade length with me.
I own the Air and its M4 steel has been wonderful...basically sharpen it, and forget about it for a month. But I'd like to have a little more blade length with me.
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I believe the bug is the lightest offering as of now :D
Sincerely, most lightweight backpackers won't carry a folding knife larger than the Victorinox Classic.
But that's no fun in that!
About the sharpening stone: sandpaper is your friend.
Sincerely, most lightweight backpackers won't carry a folding knife larger than the Victorinox Classic.
But that's no fun in that!
About the sharpening stone: sandpaper is your friend.
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True that. Some will only carry a razor blade; no fun. I can splurge an ounce or two for a decent knife. Hey, good idea re: sandpaper. Thanks.
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Bolster wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:26 pmThanks for the replies, folks. I've had some exposure to H1 and am frankly not a fan of its edge holding capabilities for an extended trip, and I'd not be carrying a sharpening stone. I'd carry a bit more weight, if I must, for a steel that holds its edge better. Is LC200N pretty good for edge holding?
I own the Air and its M4 steel has been wonderful...basically sharpen it, and forget about it for a month. But I'd like to have a little more blade length with me.
Have you tried H1 in SE? A lot better edge retention than PE in my experience (and obviously many others too).
Plus: Should SE get dull, it will still separate stuff much better than dull PE.
/ On LC200N: I think it has clearly better edge holding than H1 in PE (though of course it is not M4-ish by far in that regard). Just what I read though, haven´t tried LC myself yet.
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Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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Can´t believe I forgot: Chaparral FRN. It is not particularly light for its size, but still comes in at only 2.1oz
- Offers about the cutting edge of a Native (just a tad shorter)
- XHP is a great steel imho, with S30V-ish edge retention
- It is a VERY slim carry, but of highest and very solid built quality
- It is a great slicer due to the pretty uniquely (for a Spyderco) thin blade (2.00 mm)
- For me it is one of the best "bang for the buck" Spydies and the most perfectly designed little knife I am aware of
- I use mine for about any knife task, also for "harder use" ones
Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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LC200N is closer to VG10 edge retention than M4. Its a step up from PE H1 for sure, but not up to M4 levels.
The S110V UKPK would be a good choice if you don't need a lock. Exceptional edge holding, very corrosion resistant, very light.
The S110V UKPK would be a good choice if you don't need a lock. Exceptional edge holding, very corrosion resistant, very light.
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Many good choices above. The native 5 frn is another good choice at 2.5oz and is available in s110v that will hold an edge almost forever. 3 in blade with 2.5in of edge, great ergos and the bulletproof golden back lock.
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Manix 2 LW s110v ca. 3 ounces...this knife will exceed your need in the best way possible.
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I would choose something in LC200N, if you want to have zero worries and a great blade. It's also one of the toughest steels around.
I do love M4, though...
I do love M4, though...
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