Native 5 G10 S110v liners vs linerless

[MDNY102]

Are the G10 scales on the N5 G10 S110v without liners the same thickness as the original version with liners? Thanks.

[kobold]

Idk, but my linerless G10 Native 5 in Rex 45 is strong enough for me..

[MDNY102]

Just received the C41GPDBL5 (linered version) and I'm somewhat shocked. This is the only Spyderco I have that is actually uncomfortable to hold/use. The thin G10 is not radiused at all, and the liners exhibit sharp, burred edges. It almost seems like the knife came off the line before final finishing, to dress sharp edges and deburr the liners. Very awkward hold, and not at all consistent with typical Spyderco fit and finish. Yes, the S110v blade is quite sharp, but.... Has anyone else had this experience with this model? Native 5, G10, S110v, ss liners. Thanks.

[Michael Janich]

Are the G10 scales on the N5 G10 S110v without liners the same thickness as the original version with liners? Thanks.

The handle thickness for both the older version with liners and the newer linerless version is 0.43 inches (10.9mm). The linerless version uses thicker G-10 scales to compensate for the absence of the liner thickness.

Stay safe,

Mike

[sal]

Hi MDNY,

Welcome to our forum.

sal

[MDNY102]

Thanks for the reply regarding G10 thickness in linerless version. Is it fair to say that the fit and finish I'm seeing on the linered version is typical (i.e., consistent with the knife specs?) Thanks.

[MDNY102]

Never mind.. Went to work lubing pivot and lock, smoothed out some edges, all is good. A very nice addition to the collection.....

[prndltech]

Just received the C41GPDBL5 (linered version) and I'm somewhat shocked. This is the only Spyderco I have that is actually uncomfortable to hold/use. The thin G10 is not radiused at all, and the liners exhibit sharp, burred edges. It almost seems like the knife came off the line before final finishing, to dress sharp edges and deburr the liners. Very awkward hold, and not at all consistent with typical Spyderco fit and finish. Yes, the S110v blade is quite sharp, but.... Has anyone else had this experience with this model? Native 5, G10, S110v, ss liners. Thanks.

Nope. My s110v native with liners is smooth and solid. perfectly executed. In fact I’m debating having it reground to .010” BTE

[Sharp Guy]

Thanks for the reply regarding G10 thickness in linerless version. Is it fair to say that the fit and finish I'm seeing on the linered version is typical (i.e., consistent with the knife specs?) Thanks.

I have several Native 5s but only two were linered G10. Neither were the S110V model you're referring to. Regardless, neither are uncomfortable to hold and use. Neither have overly sharp edges on the liners. They're crisp but not sharp and don't have burrs. The corners of the G10 are radiused but not nearly as much as the LW models. Can you post a few pics of your knife? I'd love see what you're referring to

[MDNY102]

OK will try to capture and post. I think it's all about the skeletonized liners being stamped(?) thereby leaving relatively sharp edges on the inside edge of the very thin remainder of the liners that follows the G10. Liner skeleton is only about 1/8" wide where it follows the G10 edge. So when you rotate the knife in hand or take a more aggressive grip, that liner edge basically digs in and grabs skin as it's moving past. Now used to it, so not a big deal. But unquestionably the least comfortable grip of any spydercos in the collection. Not the end of the world....

[awa54]

I only own N5 LWs and one in linerless G10, so no help there, but I *do* have a stack of Manix 2s, which are Golden made, with exposed steel liners.

My experience there is that the liner edges all look and feel like they were media tumbled, they're not excessively rounded off, but all the edges are softened enough that none could qualify as "sharp", nothing like the crisp edges on Taichung knives... That includes the weight reduction cutouts in the liners.

IIRC Spyderco makes extensive use of laser cutting to produce blade and liner blanks, so the type of sharp edge artifacts that can result from from sheet stamping processes shouldn't be present.

[Sharp Guy]

Well...again mine aren't like that. So I don't think that's normal but I only have a sample of two. If it were mine I'd probably de-burr with a sharpening stone or file. You could also send it in and let Spyderco take a look at it. It might even help them to see it. Personally I'd correct the issue and put the knife back in my pocket

[MDNY102]

Agreed (regarding just relieving the edges a bit myself). Was just interested to find out whether this was a common experience. Hence reaching out here. First order of business was getting the action lubricated and cycled sufficient to get reasonable open and close effort and smoothness, which wasn't the case out of the box. Now that that is acceptably resolved, moving on to relieving edges here and there....

[prndltech]

Agreed (regarding just relieving the edges a bit myself). Was just interested to find out whether this was a common experience. Hence reaching out here. First order of business was getting the action lubricated and cycled sufficient to get reasonable open and close effort and smoothness, which wasn't the case out of the box. Now that that is acceptably resolved, moving on to relieving edges here and there....

Sounds like you got one of “those” knives. I’ve definitely had my fair share (various models). But like I said earlier... my S110V g10 native with liners is top notch, so maybe I got an exceptional one, but knowing spyderco quality I’d bet that’s not the case. I wouldn’t think that would be normal.

[MDNY102]

Maybe I had a run of too many perfect ones out of the box... And I am being fairly nit-picky. Thanks for the sanity check and input.

[prndltech]

Maybe I had a run of too many perfect ones out of the box... And I am being fairly nit-picky. Thanks for the sanity check and input.

:D

It happens man. Part of the production knife world unfortunately. As previously stated... I’ve had my fair share of em!