Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby sal » Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:56 pm

Hi Soulspy,

Thanx for the for the review.

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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby tangent » Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:31 pm

I just got mine today in plain edge. I love it. It's a homerun as far as I am concerned...however...

Sal, any plans to do a salt version? I think a serrated H1 version and a plain edge LC200N would appeal to a LOT of people.

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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby sal » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:21 pm

Hi Tangent,

Eric's long term plan is to make a Salt version of most popular models.

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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby James Y » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:27 pm

sal wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:21 pm
Hi Tangent,

Eric's long term plan is to make a Salt version of most popular models.

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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby Bemo » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:22 pm

This is good news. Now it's up to us to make it one of the more popular models then. I'll take possession of mine tomorrow and am excited to try it out. But yeah, the RockSalt would be a great alternative for those who like the Caribbean but want a backlock.

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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby GrossPolluter » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:43 pm

Wow! It's been awhile and at my age I usually don't get too excited about dernier cri knives that hit the market, but when I saw the RockJumper at an online retailer today -- man, I was in there buyin' with both hands! Pretty much everything I ever wanted in a knife! Ordered SE and PE, too...

Thanks to Sal and all the posters' pics and info on this thread!
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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby grubetown » Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:12 am

3 days in - veggies, zip ties, packages, threads and the back of my index finger :eek: don't stand a chance against my first SpyderEdge knife

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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby Wartstein » Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:16 am

grubetown wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:12 am
3 days in - veggies, zip ties, packages, threads and the back of my index finger :eek: don't stand a chance against my first SpyderEdge knife

Hope you (except the back of your index finger of course ;) ) are enjoying the ffg spyderedges performance!
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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby JuPaul » Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:28 am

grubetown wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:12 am
3 days in - veggies, zip ties, packages, threads and the back of my index finger :eek: don't stand a chance against my first SpyderEdge knife
Is your cut from dropping the blade closed? I've been wondering if people would have issues with that on the Rockjumper.
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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby grubetown » Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:26 am

JuPaul wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:28 am
grubetown wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:12 am
3 days in - veggies, zip ties, packages, threads and the back of my index finger :eek: don't stand a chance against my first SpyderEdge knife
Is your cut from dropping the blade closed? I've been wondering if people would have issues with that on the Rockjumper.
Yes, yes it is. This is the first lockback I have used on a regular basis, so may be user error and will share my thoughts.

I have medium sized hands. If my index finger is between the pivot and lock bar screws, the ricasso falls perfectly. If my index finger is further down the scale where the transition of the chamfering is - watch out! :spyder:

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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby grubetown » Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:29 am

Evil D wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:54 am
grubetown wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:51 am
I am left handed and switched the clip over for left side carry. My artistic sense is urging me to switch the scale and pivot screws so that the show side has the buttons instead of the screw heads. Any reason I shouldn't do this? My plan would be to do one at a time so I don't run into any reassembly issues. TIA.


As long as the shape and depth of the holes in both scales is the same it should work. Like you said if you do them one at a time you should avoid any issues. You'll know on the first one whether it will work or not.
I attempted the swap this morning and the screw head is smaller then the button, so I guess I will have to deal with unsightly torx heads on my "show" side ;)

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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby JuPaul » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:21 pm

grubetown wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:26 am
JuPaul wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:28 am
grubetown wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:12 am
3 days in - veggies, zip ties, packages, threads and the back of my index finger :eek: don't stand a chance against my first SpyderEdge knife
Is your cut from dropping the blade closed? I've been wondering if people would have issues with that on the Rockjumper.
Yes, yes it is. This is the first lockback I have used on a regular basis, so may be user error and will share my thoughts.

I have medium sized hands. If my index finger is between the pivot and lock bar screws, the ricasso falls perfectly. If my index finger is further down the scale where the transition of the chamfering is - watch out! :spyder:
Good to know. The recent Spyopera is similar in design as far as the "hidden ricasso", and you definitely have to have your index finger high up or you'll get bit. So far I've been ok - probably just a matter of building muscle memory.
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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby steelcity16 » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:30 pm

JuPaul wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:28 am
grubetown wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:12 am
3 days in - veggies, zip ties, packages, threads and the back of my index finger :eek: don't stand a chance against my first SpyderEdge knife
Is your cut from dropping the blade closed? I've been wondering if people would have issues with that on the Rockjumper.

That's the other reason I'm probably out on this model. I couldn't get used to the extra blade on the Spyopera and kept dropping it on my index finger. I carry the Enduras, Delicas, and now the Straight Spine Stretch so much that my finger placement muscle memory is based on the extra room those models have. Spyopera is heading out the door to a new home today. C'est la vie! :)

The extra blade is nice however in something like the Tenacious since you don't have that problem with a liner lock.
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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby Evil D » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:39 pm

Seems like if your index finger is that far back from the pivot you're gonna get cut by ANY knife wouldn't you? At that point you're further back than any other ricasso of choil anyway.
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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby steelcity16 » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:53 pm

Evil D wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:39 pm
Seems like if your index finger is that far back from the pivot you're gonna get cut by ANY knife wouldn't you? At that point you're further back than any other ricasso of choil anyway.

I guess I'd have to have the Rock Jumper in hand to really make that comparison, but on the SpyOpera at least the blade at the rear extends down past the ricasso, and that very pointy area is what kept biting me. The Rock Jumper doesn't have that, but the ricasso isn't nearly as large as the Endura, so it's more of assumption at this point.


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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby Evil D » Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:06 pm

steelcity16 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:53 pm
Evil D wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:39 pm
Seems like if your index finger is that far back from the pivot you're gonna get cut by ANY knife wouldn't you? At that point you're further back than any other ricasso of choil anyway.

I guess I'd have to have the Rock Jumper in hand to really make that comparison, but on the SpyOpera at least the blade at the rear extends down past the ricasso, and that very pointy area is what kept biting me. The Rock Jumper doesn't have that, but the ricasso isn't nearly as large as the Endura, so it's more of assumption at this point.


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I think the ricasso is every bit as big as the Endura, it's just hidden when open.

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You'd have to have your fingers back past the lock to get cut and I think at that point it's user error.
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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby steelcity16 » Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:08 pm

Evil D wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:06 pm

I think the ricasso is every bit as big as the Endura, it's just hidden when open.

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You'd have to have your fingers back past the lock to get cut and I think at that point it's user error.

Ahh, good to know, thanks for pic! I'll be all over the jimped and dented variant in that case! :D
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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby Wartstein » Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:01 pm

grubetown wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:26 am
JuPaul wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:28 am
grubetown wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:12 am
Is your cut from dropping the blade closed? I've been wondering if people would have issues with that on the Rockjumper.
Yes, yes it is. This is the first lockback I have used on a regular basis, so may be user error and will share my thoughts.

I have medium sized hands. If my index finger is between the pivot and lock bar screws, the ricasso falls perfectly. If my index finger is further down the scale where the transition of the chamfering is - watch out! :spyder:

With all due respect, but since this is your first lockback I also think (like others here) that this is not due to the particular design of the Rock Jumper, but would be the case with most lockbacks (or most folders generally) if you use that technique while grabbing the handle too far back

/ Anyway, there are several other easy methods of closing a backlock one handed which I personally prefer over the "let the Ricasso drop on your finger"- technique, which seems to be the only one many are aware of.
Since you are pretty new to the forum [EDIT: Sorry, just realized you are actually not that new here - ]allow me to post some short clips I once made showing three of those other ways of closing a backlock (each method shown one time slow, two times regular speed, see links below). Maybe it helps! :)

https://streamable.com/j7fjd

https://streamable.com/bhhzs

https://streamable.com/myzlt
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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby sal » Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:14 pm

The whole purpose of the "Handle forward" design is to permit the same method of closing on the Endura+ models without changing muscle memory. Unlike the SpyOpera and Siren, I intentionally kept that feature closing feature the same..

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Re: Rock Jumper comparison thread + general info

Postby Evil D » Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:23 pm

sal wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:14 pm
The whole purpose of the "Handle forward" design is to permit the same method of closing on the Endura+ models without changing muscle memory. Unlike the SpyOpera and Siren, I intentionally kept that feature closing feature the same..

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To me it's absolutely the same. I don't need to watch my hand or be careful about finger placement, it's already second nature. The placement of the lock well naturally positions your grip in the right place so your index finger hits the ricasso. If anything I'd say this design is more likely to cause people to not drop the blade as far closed as they usually do, if their index finger is further forward on the grip it tends to stop the blade from dropping as much. The further forward your finger is, the less the blade can drop and visa versa. If you close the blade whole holding the handle from under the lock well or further back then I can definitely see the blade swinging down to cut you, but you'll get the same cut from a Native 5 or just about any other back lock because you're too far behind the ricasso/choil.
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