Mirror polished edges - Which steels are better (and worst) for taking them?
Re: Mirror polished edges - Which steels are better (and worst) for taking them?
I love CTS XHP, it sharpens and takes a mirror edge better than most steels I own.
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Re: Mirror polished edges - Which steels are better (and worst) for taking them?
I have a Native 5 Salt with LC200N that I use for a beater work knife. It has a 15 degree main bevel and a 22 degree micro bevel. I go all the way to a .5 micron strop and the edge seems to be holding very well.
Re: Mirror polished edges - Which steels are better (and worst) for taking them?
Just got a Spyderco ultra fine today and put it to use on my s90v para 3 lw, which I’ve been having an embarrassingly hard time with... nearly mirrored it by accident. So I’ve gotta plug s90v for this, even though I haven’t enjoyed sharpening it nearly as much as everyone else apparently has.
Re: Mirror polished edges - Which steels are better (and worst) for taking them?
This mirrors (ha!) my experience as well, and it's especially apparent with PM steels with high vanadium carbide content (S30V, S35VN, S110V). I don't notice as much (if any) of an observable decrease in edge holding with mirror-polished edges in ingot stainless steels that rely mostly on chromium carbides, though (i.e., VG-10, 8Cr13MoV, AUS-8, ZDP-189, etc.). This is all just one amateur sharpener's anecdotal experience, though.
Re: Mirror polished edges - Which steels are better (and worst) for taking them?
I have a Delica 3 in ATS 55 and haven't seen a spot of rust on it in over 22 years of use. Mine goes in the dishwasher probably once a year when it gets oiled up from work and rides in my work pickup daily.Menipo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:25 pmThanks, Albatross! Really impressive.Albatross wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:04 pmAny steel can take a polish, but as a general rule of thumb, high carbide steels don't perform as well with a polished edge. The carbides act as micro serrations with high edge retention, so polishing smooths over the carbides, making them far less effective.
S30V will take a polish, but not as well as VG10, CTS XHP, BD1N, or other similar steels. Rex 45 works with a polish and so does M390/204P/20CV, but that's because of the lower vanadium content. In fact, M390 actually has more vanadium content than Rex 45, even if it's only by a very small amount. I usually finish my Rex 45 knives with a 1500 grit stone, then diamond spray/paste strops in 1, .5, and .25 microns. If I'm sharpening just for sharpness, the edge wont end up with a polish, but if I'm setting out to polish it, all it takes is a little more effort with the same grits.
Ive heard that anything over 4% vanadium requires diamond stones for sharpening, and should be sharpened to a lower grit finish, such as 400-600 grit. I'm not sure what that is based on, but it seems like the 4% cutoff works well (at least from what I've seen) as criteria for polished edges.
I only use diamond stones and try to avoid steels with "an inclination to rust". I have two ATS-55 Spydies (a Dyad -the big one- and a Civilian) and though they are not in the EDC rotation and never leave the showcase (dry environment) I have to keep an eye always on them ...
Not a safe queen for sure
52100 takes a mirror polish more easily than anything else I have.