Going to depend on how the person is dressed and where you stab them, In a lot of cases, it doesn;t take a really sharp tip to stab someone. Worked in a prison where one inmate killed another with a #2 pencil.
The ffg Endura tip indeed should be a bit stronger, due to the spine drop towards the tip than the SS Stretch (the tip of the sabre grind Endura is very robust anyway, but as a trade off less usefull in finer tasks)
I know nothing about sd with knives, but Spydercos probably most dedicated self defense knife actually has a pretty fine tip as far as I know (Yojimbo, see here: https://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details/C85GBBK2/1840)
Michael Janich has used a Delica and Endura for years as part of his SD tool selection, I believe.
Cambertree wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:51 pmMichael Janich has used a Delica and Endura for years as part of his SD tool selection, I believe.
The straight spined Stretch is no thinner than those knives at the tip, and probably thicker than his reground Delicas.
That should probably answer any concerns you have.
Yes, you’re no doubt right on the relative tip robustness, Wartstein.Wartstein wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:02 pmRather nitpicky , but I´d say the straight spined Stretch tip is no thinner indeed than an Endura at the tip when one looks at the spines of the blade.
The Endura tip (and even more so the tip of the regular Stretch) should be a bit stronger though due to the drop of the spine towards the tip, which makes it less "pointy" when looked at the tip at the flat (and not the spine) of the blade (I think it even was Sals intention to give Endura 4 and Delica 4 that kind of "spine drop" to make the tip a bit more robust in that models?)
Again, rather theoretical, and I´d guess not relevant for sd at all if one deals with an SS Stretch or Endura tip...
I know nothing at all about sd with knives, but just instinctively I´d probably take the SS Stretch over the Endura if I had to choose (and then still avoid any knife fight... )
Didn’t we all at one point...didn’t we all...Jull wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:58 amOk, thanks for intelligent answers guys!
I think i understand better what i need for my knife, like you say; Thin or strong tip/blade have PRO and CON, and about SD the knife choice depend your tactics you want to opperate.
So like i say on top, i'm not really want a knife dedicate for fight, just a good ONE knife (because i want just one:), for edc, eat, prepare food but if i have a knife all days in my pocket i want one capable fight to slice or stab correctly, not because i really envisaging SD situation, but i think it's logic he can do this too.
Maybe the Manix 2 LW maybe a better choice for this, a good allround and solid i think, Endura maybe the best choice for me but i not really in love with aestetic, but i understand spyderco disign was for performance and not only aestetics.
Pm2 really good too, maybe not a good "staber"
So i dont know if i chance my strech
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