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Sage Maxamet

Postby Spydergirl88 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:37 pm

Who is interested in this one?
I would honestly buy this knife if it was in s30v. Grey g10 is cool :cool:
I haven't had a Sage 1 in a few years but i remember it being pretty nice.
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Re: Sage Maxamet

Postby p_atrick » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:21 pm

I like the idea of "old" Sage models making a comeback. The gray G10 looks great. Maxamet isn't for me. I'm hoping more "old" Sage models make an appearance.

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Re: Sage Maxamet

Postby JMM » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:46 pm

I'm going to get it, I'm not a huge fan of Maxamet, I have the Para3 and that's all I really want or need, but I like the Sage series and I really want to see them make more of these, the Sage3 with 4V, Rex45, K390, 10V, or Cru-Wear would likely be in my pocket nearly every day along with something SE.

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Re: Sage Maxamet

Postby abbazaba » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:54 pm

I was really hoping to see an M4 LW for both the Sage and Chaparral. However, I'm glad to see the Sage1 is still alive. Not been a big fan of Maxamet as an EDC, but this one has me tempted.

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Re: Sage Maxamet

Postby JMM » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:58 pm

abbazaba wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:54 pm
I was really hoping to see an M4 LW for both the Sage and Chaparral. However, I'm glad to see the Sage1 is still alive. Not been a big fan of Maxamet as an EDC, but this one has me tempted.
You don't consider the FRN Chaparral a LW model?

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Re: Sage Maxamet

Postby jpm2 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:54 pm

My favorite Spyderco with a steel that's in a league of its own? Yep, I'm interested.
This knife will probably live in my pocket everyday for the rest of my life.

I'm curious what it is people don't like about maxamet?

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Re: Sage Maxamet

Postby Cambertree » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:31 pm

This one certainly came out of the blue!

I’d consider getting this as my first Sage model if it wasn’t a righty liner lock.

(The Pattadese, on the other hand, is so cool, I think I’ll make an exception for that feature, as I did with the Gayle Bradley 1.)

But I’ll be following the user reviews of this knife with interest. It looks like it will be a superb user. :cool: :spyder:

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Re: Sage Maxamet

Postby Unbrokenchain33 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:07 pm

I’d rather see the original Sage 1 come back. Why does this seem more expensive?

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Re: Sage Maxamet

Postby Spydergirl88 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:15 pm

Unbrokenchain33 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:07 pm
I’d rather see the original Sage 1 come back. Why does this seem more expensive?
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Re: Sage Maxamet

Postby qwkzotc » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:23 pm

Hmm, a linerlock with Maxamet? The only thing better would be a Millie with Maxamet.

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Re: Sage Maxamet

Postby JuPaul » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:26 pm

jpm2 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:54 pm
My favorite Spyderco with a steel that's in a league of its own? Yep, I'm interested.
This knife will probably live in my pocket everyday for the rest of my life.

I'm curious what it is people don't like about maxamet?
I avoid it because it sounds like a huge pain to sharpen, and the super high edge retention isn't that important to me. Some people also say it's prone to chipping, which also scares me away. And then there's the higher price tag...
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Re: Sage Maxamet

Postby Sharp Guy » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:32 pm

JuPaul wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:26 pm
jpm2 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:54 pm
My favorite Spyderco with a steel that's in a league of its own? Yep, I'm interested.
This knife will probably live in my pocket everyday for the rest of my life.

I'm curious what it is people don't like about maxamet?
I avoid it because it sounds like a huge pain to sharpen, and the super high edge retention isn't that important to me. Some people also say it's prone to chipping, which also scares me away. And then there's the higher price tag...
IMO, it's not as hard to sharpen as you might think. I reprofiled my Native 5 LW and it seemed easier than my S110V knives. Actually, it didn't seem all that much harder to reprofile than S30V or S35VN. I don't think I used diamonds either. I'm pretty sure I started with a 120 grit Moldmaster (SiC). I worked fine so I just kept going the finer grits.

I have this kind of dumb thing I do most Sunday nights before bringing our garbage & recycling bins to the curb for garbage pick up on Monday morning. We keep a smaller recycling bin near the door inside the garage. Before emptying that smaller bin I go out with one or two of my knives and I cut up all the cardboard into tiny pieces. I can cut a lot of cardboard with with any steels I have (even BD1). After awhile you can feel when they're no longer cutting very well. When I first got my Maxamet Native 5 I used the factory edge for several sessions. It just kept cutting the cardboard nicely. Finally one day I decided to go ahead and touch it up. The edge felt pretty dull so I figured I'd need to use my CBN rods. Instead I tried the brown rods first and I was surprised that the edge came back to shaving sharp pretty easily. I've never been able to do that with S110V. I tested it again tonight. I cut a medium-sized shipping box into little pieces. It was still cutting fine but definitely wouldn't shave. A few minutes on the Sharpmaker medium stones and it sure shaves arm hair now.

As far as the Sage 1 Maxamet, I'm definitely in. I said in another thread that I kind of wished they used a different steel. After playing with Maxamet again tonight I've realized I was wrong. I'll happily buy a Maxamet Sage 1. I do kind of wish they didn't use grey G10 because I have a whole bunch of grey knives. I get that they use grey for Maxamet. So I guess I'll be adding one more grey knife to the collection.

EDIT: BTW, I haven't had any chipping issues with my Maxamet Native either. I've used it at work to cut up thick poly banding among other things. I should note that I don't typically have chipping issues with any steel though
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Re: Sage Maxamet

Postby Signalman1 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:13 am

Sharp Guy wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:32 pm
JuPaul wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:26 pm
jpm2 wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:54 pm
My favorite Spyderco with a steel that's in a league of its own? Yep, I'm interested.
This knife will probably live in my pocket everyday for the rest of my life.

I'm curious what it is people don't like about maxamet?
I avoid it because it sounds like a huge pain to sharpen, and the super high edge retention isn't that important to me. Some people also say it's prone to chipping, which also scares me away. And then there's the higher price tag...
IMO, it's not as hard to sharpen as you might think. I reprofiled my Native 5 LW and it seemed easier than my S110V knives. Actually, it didn't seem all that much harder to reprofile than S30V or S35VN. I don't think I used diamonds either. I'm pretty sure I started with a 120 grit Moldmaster (SiC). I worked fine so I just kept going the finer grits.

I have this kind of dumb thing I do most Sunday nights before bringing our garbage & recycling bins to the curb for garbage pick up on Monday morning. We keep a smaller recycling bin near the door inside the garage. Before emptying that smaller bin I go out with one or two of my knives and I cut up all the cardboard into tiny pieces. I can cut a lot of cardboard with with any steels I have (even BD1). After awhile you can feel when they're no longer cutting very well. When I first got my Maxamet Native 5 I used the factory edge for several sessions. It just kept cutting the cardboard nicely. Finally one day I decided to go ahead and touch it up. The edge felt pretty dull so I figured I'd need to use my CBN rods. Instead I tried the brown rods first and I was surprised that the edge came back to shaving sharp pretty easily. I've never been able to do that with S110V. I tested it again tonight. I cut a medium-sized shipping box into little pieces. It was still cutting fine but definitely wouldn't shave. A few minutes on the Sharpmaker medium stones and it sure shaves arm hair now.

As far as the Sage 1 Maxamet, I'm definitely in. I said in another thread that I kind of wished they used a different steel. After playing with Maxamet again tonight I've realized I was wrong. I'll happily buy a Maxamet Sage 1. I do kind of wish they didn't use grey G10 because I have a whole bunch of grey knives. I get that they use grey for Maxamet. So I guess I'll be adding one more grey knife to the collection.

EDIT: BTW, I haven't had any chipping issues with my Maxamet Native either. I've used it at work to cut up thick poly banding among other things. I should note that I don't typically have chipping issues with any steel though
Hey Sharp Guy your not helping me keep money in my wallet. I thought I should just get the regular Sage 1 with I think S30V steel but now the Maxemet sounds like the way to go. That and the Pattadese are both looking good for the next two knives for me to get.

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Re: Sage Maxamet

Postby Ric » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:22 am

I am in.
I want to have a linerlock knife in the Para 3 size. This is exactly that.
G10 is always good. Maxamet even better.

Maybe price will not be that nice...

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Re: Sage Maxamet

Postby nerdlock » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:53 am

This makes my dream of possibly collecting the Sage series a bit more complicated (as if finding a Sage 4 for a good price isn't complicated enough)...

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Re: Sage Maxamet

Postby RustyIron » Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:49 am

JuPaul wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:26 pm
I avoid it because it sounds like a huge pain to sharpen, and the super high edge retention isn't that important to me. Some people also say it's prone to chipping, which also scares me away. And then there's the higher price tag...
Making decisions based on forum chatter can sometimes lead you in the wrong direction. I find Maxamet quite easy to sharpen, more so than lower-end steels. When I first started using it, I was faced with challenges. The challenges forced me to pay closer attention to the process, which helped my sharpening across the board.

Chipping is real in Maxamet. Chipping is real in REX 45, but to a lesser degree. Chipping is real in M4, but to an even lesser degree. I think the problem arises because of the mentality of the user. She thinks that because she spent a lot of money on a blade, she can run around like Arya Stark slaying White Walkers with her Valeryan Steel sword. Use the Maxamet knife as you would your S30V knife, and it will serve you as expected. Go around doing things you shouldn't do with a knife, and the Maxamet will become damaged just as your S30V knife.

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Re: Sage Maxamet

Postby JuPaul » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:30 am

RustyIron wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:49 am
JuPaul wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:26 pm
I avoid it because it sounds like a huge pain to sharpen, and the super high edge retention isn't that important to me. Some people also say it's prone to chipping, which also scares me away. And then there's the higher price tag...
Making decisions based on forum chatter can sometimes lead you in the wrong direction. I find Maxamet quite easy to sharpen, more so than lower-end steels. When I first started using it, I was faced with challenges. The challenges forced me to pay closer attention to the process, which helped my sharpening across the board.

Chipping is real in Maxamet. Chipping is real in REX 45, but to a lesser degree. Chipping is real in M4, but to an even lesser degree. I think the problem arises because of the mentality of the user. She thinks that because she spent a lot of money on a blade, she can run around like Arya Stark slaying White Walkers with her Valeryan Steel sword. Use the Maxamet knife as you would your S30V knife, and it will serve you as expected. Go around doing things you shouldn't do with a knife, and the Maxamet will become damaged just as your S30V knife.
I definitely agree that you can't always trust popular opinion. I've thought about giving maxamet a shot many times just to see for myself, but in the end there are a wealth of other steels that I know I like and that I can sharpen well, and that come with a much lower price tag. Would I like maxamet $80 more per knife than rex45 (like on the manix lw)? Of course I can't be certain, but I doubt it.

As for chipping...for daily edc use I don't worry much about chipping. But I use many of my knives outdoors quite a bit, and edge stability is definitely more important to me in those circumstances. Sure I could still manage to chip rex45, k390, or 4v if I do something really dumb (which I might, on occasion), but I like the higher "dumb stuff threshold" that those steels give me. :p
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Re: Sage Maxamet

Postby RustyIron » Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:02 am

JuPaul wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:30 am
Sure I could still manage to chip rex45, k390, or 4v if I do something really dumb (which I might, on occasion), but I like the higher "dumb stuff threshold" that those steels give me. :p
Chipping or rolling... regardless of the steel, something undesirable is aways gonna happen when you exceed the DT (Dumbness Threshold). As I get older, I find myself spending more time on this side of the threshold. But on those occasions when I do cross over, the degree of dumbness is just breathtaking.

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Re: Sage Maxamet

Postby elena86 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:03 am

Bringing back the Sage1 was a brilliant idea but... Maxamet ?! No thank you.What about... CPM-Cruwear ?
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Re: Sage Maxamet

Postby Abyss_Fish » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:34 am

I’m not super into maxamet or the sage 1. But I can only hope that this means we’ll continue getting steel variations for the other sage models, because a return of the sage 2 in something like m390 would be absolutely glorious.
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