The Next Delica
The Next Delica
After carrying may delicas again I began to compare and think about it's design. I am curious what everyone would like to see in the next iteration of the Delica. For me, I would like to see a wire deep carry clip option. While I'm not a slave to the compression lock, it would be cool to add a compression lock version to the Delica line.
I have no issues fidgeting with my Delicas as they are, a compression lock version would undoubtedly pull a ton of the bugout carriers. IMO with the deep carry clip and compression setup, the Delica would be a better option than the Bugout, especially value wise, and the vast choice of blade steels available.
The only drawback I can see is making the Delica a bit more competitive with the Para 3 Lightweight. I still prefer the Delica's footprint over the Para 3 lightweight, especially since your getting the same usable blade length but in a thinner package.
Is this a decent idea, or am I just being ridiculous?
TXPO
I have no issues fidgeting with my Delicas as they are, a compression lock version would undoubtedly pull a ton of the bugout carriers. IMO with the deep carry clip and compression setup, the Delica would be a better option than the Bugout, especially value wise, and the vast choice of blade steels available.
The only drawback I can see is making the Delica a bit more competitive with the Para 3 Lightweight. I still prefer the Delica's footprint over the Para 3 lightweight, especially since your getting the same usable blade length but in a thinner package.
Is this a decent idea, or am I just being ridiculous?
TXPO
Re: The Next Delica
It could possibly be a new model, but replacing the backlock with a comp lock would be sacrilege to some here :p
Sal has mentioned before that comp locks on such thin blades would be next to impossible because of the width needed to properly seat the lock as well
Sal has mentioned before that comp locks on such thin blades would be next to impossible because of the width needed to properly seat the lock as well
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Re: The Next Delica
I can't see any of the Seki line ever moving to a comp lock. The backlock is the best lock for hard working affordable user knives like these and really the best lock in general.
If they want to make a Delica-esque comp lock in Golden, that is another story. I'd like to see what they could come up with in that case.
If they want to make a Delica-esque comp lock in Golden, that is another story. I'd like to see what they could come up with in that case.
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Re: The Next Delica
As long as it's an option and not standard equipment, I'm all for that. I do prefer the current clip by a mile, but if a wire clip got more people to try a Delica, well that's a good thing.Texaspoff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:45 amAfter carrying may delicas again I began to compare and think about it's design. I am curious what everyone would like to see in the next iteration of the Delica. For me, I would like to see a wire deep carry clip option. While I'm not a slave to the compression lock, it would be cool to add a compression lock version to the Delica line.
I have no issues fidgeting with my Delicas as they are, a compression lock version would undoubtedly pull a ton of the bugout carriers. IMO with the deep carry clip and compression setup, the Delica would be a better option than the Bugout, especially value wise, and the vast choice of blade steels available.
The only drawback I can see is making the Delica a bit more competitive with the Para 3 Lightweight. I still prefer the Delica's footprint over the Para 3 lightweight, especially since your getting the same usable blade length but in a thinner package.
Is this a decent idea, or am I just being ridiculous?
TXPO
The only thing that would improve the Delica, in my opinion, is a longer handle. Might be a future DIY project for me.
The current clip, steel options, FRN pattern, texture, blade shape options, steel liners, and sprints/exclusives make this a classic that's hard to improve on. I'm sure Spyderco will find a way though.
Re: The Next Delica
Im eagerly waiting for the Wharncliffe Delica in K390.
Beyond that, the ultimate Delica for me would include full stainless steel liners, Micarta handles, and CruWear.
Beyond that, the ultimate Delica for me would include full stainless steel liners, Micarta handles, and CruWear.
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Just recently bought a new old school saber grind Delica, I wouldn't change a thing about it! Had no idea I would enjoy carrying it so much!
Re: The Next Delica
the comp lock delica is already here. it's called the para 3 lw. :)
the only thing i'd like to see different about the delica is a rockjumper style grip.
the only thing i'd like to see different about the delica is a rockjumper style grip.
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Re: The Next Delica
I don't think moving to a comp lock would bring the Bugout users to Spyderco, one of the selling points of the Axis lock is its supreme ambidextrous operation. Unless Spyderco plans to make its CBBL smaller to fit the Delica, there's going to be a separate market for the Bugout and Delica (speaking as one of the few lefties around).
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Re: The Next Delica
I would like to see production of the Delica moved to the US, and more G10 models. I'm not a big fan of the Delica(frn, backlock). My wife has about 10 of them, loves backlocks. We both have the St. Nicks Delica though.
Re: The Next Delica
It’s not likely we’re ever going to see a compression lock Delica; not because it’s made in Seki (in the past, there were compression lock models made in Seki), but because there is already the Para 3 LWT, as was already mentioned.
I’m probably unusual around here in that I personally like the Delica with the back lock and made in Seki. CQI notwithstanding, if it were changed too much into something else, it would no longer be a Delica. It would be some new model.
Jim
I’m probably unusual around here in that I personally like the Delica with the back lock and made in Seki. CQI notwithstanding, if it were changed too much into something else, it would no longer be a Delica. It would be some new model.
Jim
Re: The Next Delica
I agree x2. Also wanting the next gen Delica to keep the backlock. Prefer current clip configuration due to aftermarket support of deep carry clips.steelcity16 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:42 pmThe backlock is the best lock for hard working affordable user knives like these and really the best lock in general.
Re: The Next Delica
Hi Texaspoff, Oloung1,
Welcome to our forum.
sal
Welcome to our forum.
sal
Re: The Next Delica
Isn’t the Mantra 3 really close to a delica with a compression lock?
Re: The Next Delica
After seeing the St. Nicks Delica, one for the best upgrades for the Delica would be a G-10 version. :)
The Dragonfly already has a G10 version, so I think the Delica is due for a scale upgrade.
The Dragonfly already has a G10 version, so I think the Delica is due for a scale upgrade.
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Re: The Next Delica
The thin blade of the Delica is actually a function of the backlock. Most compression locks requires a thicker blade to accomodate the sideways travel of the locking tab.
Re: The Next Delica
I've carried and used the Delica 4 for a very very very long time. It is my favorite folder. In my hands and mind, the only way it gets better is a deep carry clip. I figured this out by carrying a UKPK for a year and a Sage LW for about 9 months. I'm about to pull the plug on an aftermarket deep carry clip for the Delica 4 and will soon find out for myself.
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Re: The Next Delica
The Delica 4 is so refined that it is hard to find an improvement that doesn’t worsen some other aspect. A wire clip on a FFG Delica would be fine with me - it’s a very lightweight knife, and i love the wire clip in my Manix LW. Deep carry isn’t attractive to me personally. For me, a clipped knife needs to be easy to grasp and withdraw. If I want to be discreet, clipless in-pocket carry is best.
I like the compression lock a lot, but the mid lock is in my opinion better suited to the Delica. Aside from the thin blade challenge, the ambidexterity and closing bias of the mid lock are valuable. I also suspect the compression lock costs more to manufacture.
My ideal Delica upgrade would borrow heavily from the Mantra, but with no flipper, bronze pivot washers, and a stainless blade. The original Mantra 1 attracted me with its edge all the way to the handle, but I didn’t want a flipper, ball bearing pivot, or rustable blade. Basically, it looks like a slightly larger Delica.
I like the compression lock a lot, but the mid lock is in my opinion better suited to the Delica. Aside from the thin blade challenge, the ambidexterity and closing bias of the mid lock are valuable. I also suspect the compression lock costs more to manufacture.
My ideal Delica upgrade would borrow heavily from the Mantra, but with no flipper, bronze pivot washers, and a stainless blade. The original Mantra 1 attracted me with its edge all the way to the handle, but I didn’t want a flipper, ball bearing pivot, or rustable blade. Basically, it looks like a slightly larger Delica.
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Re: The Next Delica
Hey Tex,
Welcome to the forum!
Have you tried the Para 3 LW?
It's a little more commonly identified as a "bugout killer" than the Delica, and as you point out it already has the features you're looking for.
Sidebar, you may do a forum search for "Delica 5" or similar - we've had quite a few threads on this topic over the years. My take? Add a 50/50 choil, and swell over points. That said, I know plenty of us like the Delica just the way it is, and Spyderco already has plenty of knives with those features anyway.
Welcome to the forum!
Have you tried the Para 3 LW?
It's a little more commonly identified as a "bugout killer" than the Delica, and as you point out it already has the features you're looking for.
Sidebar, you may do a forum search for "Delica 5" or similar - we've had quite a few threads on this topic over the years. My take? Add a 50/50 choil, and swell over points. That said, I know plenty of us like the Delica just the way it is, and Spyderco already has plenty of knives with those features anyway.
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Top four in rotation: K390 + GCM PM2, ZCarta Shaman, Crucarta PM2, K390 + GCM Straight Spine Stretch.
Re: The Next Delica
“Swell over points”? What is that?kennethsime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:03 pmHey Tex,
Welcome to the forum!
Have you tried the Para 3 LW?
It's a little more commonly identified as a "bugout killer" than the Delica, and as you point out it already has the features you're looking for.
Sidebar, you may do a forum search for "Delica 5" or similar - we've had quite a few threads on this topic over the years. My take? Add a 50/50 choil, and swell over points. That said, I know plenty of us like the Delica just the way it is, and Spyderco already has plenty of knives with those features anyway.