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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby Sharp Guy » Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:16 pm

Like a lot of these types of subjects (steel choice, lock type, size, shape, etc)....it's great that Spyderco makes something for everyone!
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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby sal » Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:59 pm

TomAiello wrote:
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All good, just different.

I use and carry both and enjoy and value both.

Amen.

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby GarageBoy » Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:42 pm

A lot of people who like liners and g10 know that frn is pretty strong, but simply prefer the feel of the heft and the stuff g10

Nice to have both

Now - SS handles are the really unpopular ones

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby araneae » Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:56 pm

FRN takes impact abuse better from my experience. People may think it looks cheap, but that's their prejudice to overcome. Only FRN handle I recall seeing broken here on the forum was run over by a bobcat while stuck in the ground.

I had a coworker drop her delica in the gravel parking lot where it was driven over, likely several times, over the course of a day. After I cleaned it up it and re-bent the clip, it was in perfect working order. Solo cup, hah!

I've got a very wide variety of handle materials in my collection, but I prefer to use FRN when I'm working. Grip, lightweight, durability and comfort in use are important to me.
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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby FRNFanboy » Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:09 pm

I dunno, I’m not sure which side I fall on. :)

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby Wartstein » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:41 am

FRNFanboy wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:09 pm
I dunno, I’m not sure which side I fall on. :)

:p
I am sure you aren´t - given your very neutral username! ;)

Welcome tot the forum, btw! :)
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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby Doc Dan » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:35 am

Wartstein wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:41 am
FRNFanboy wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:09 pm
I dunno, I’m not sure which side I fall on. :)

:p
I am sure you aren´t given your very neutral username! ;)

Welcome tot the forum, btw! :)
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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby standy99 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:45 am

How would a G10 with FRN liners go. Image
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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby sal » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:13 pm

Hi FRNFanboy,

Welcome to our forum.

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby TomAiello » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:30 pm

One of my friends showed me his Manix 2 (s110v) a couple days ago and he has developed a crack in the handle. It's small and won't effect use, but I was interested to see it. I've actually dropped a Native LW from 300 feet onto gravel (at work, on accident) and it survived unscathed.

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby Wartstein » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:53 pm

TomAiello wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:30 pm
One of my friends showed me his Manix 2 (s110v) a couple days ago and he has developed a crack in the handle. It's small and won't effect use, but I was interested to see it. I've actually dropped a Native LW from 300 feet onto gravel (at work, on accident) and it survived unscathed.

Interesting indeed... FRCP (Manix) subjectively actually does feel in hand a bit more "harder/rigid" "brittle" and more prone to crack than FRN (Native) - the latter feels more like it would dent before it cracks. No idea if this translates in objective parameters.

That being said: The Manix LW I had and the one I have right now held/hold up perfectly and I am not worried at all about there stability (though pushed to the extreme a G10 linered Manix will be stronger of course).
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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby ladybug93 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:02 pm

i've dropped both my manix lw and native salt from about waist height and they both have scars. the native salt was dropped on chunkier asphalt and got some deep gouges (not really that bad, but deep for a little drop). my manix just got some small dents and scratches. i don't even notice them.

i might just be the surface they hit and how they land. i was surprised to see chunks taken out of my native salt handle. fortunately, it didn't crack or break and the action and ergos weren't affected.

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby Wartstein » Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:43 pm

ladybug93 wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:02 pm
i've dropped both my manix lw and native salt from about waist height and they both have scars. the native salt was dropped on chunkier asphalt and got some deep gouges (not really that bad, but deep for a little drop). my manix just got some small dents and scratches. i don't even notice them.

i might just be the surface they hit and how they land. i was surprised to see chunks taken out of my native salt handle. fortunately, it didn't crack or break and the action and ergos weren't affected.

Interesting, thanks!

When it comes to FRN, Seki FRN always felt a bit "softer", more "rubbery" and less "plasticy" and less likely to break than Golden FRN to me (totally subjective and not proven by any test at all - just the feel in hand)
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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby James Y » Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:56 pm

ladybug93 and Warstein:

Years ago, I dropped a Military onto parking lot asphalt once, and it left a minor ding. I’ve dropped Seki FRN models in similar circumstances and pretty much the same, although sometimes the dings were a little more pronounced. The dings on all of the above-mentioned knives happened at the ends/corners of the handles.

I’ve noticed the Seki FRN has a softer, almost slightly “gummier” feel to it than the Golden FRN. This difference is also noticeable when you tap both types of FRN with a fingernail. I prefer the Seki FRN a bit more.

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby TomAiello » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:25 pm

All my knives have scars, so I'm not sure if I'd even notice if the native that I dropped had picked up any additional dings. It had no noticeable major damage (cracks, etc) and still functions perfectly, though.

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby Mister X » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:21 pm

My Gen 1 Delica’s and Endura’s from the 90’s are still serving me well. If I come across NIB ones on eBay, I usually will buy or bid on them. No liners and pinned construction, super lightweight and very low maintenance. I’ve looked at the new models and just don’t see any advantages offered for my needs. Never a problem with the thick clips and feel they offer a better contact point for quick one-handed opening.

I did recently pick of a couple of ARK’s. Interesting knives, very unique. I just wish I could find a way to clip them on the belt/waistband.

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby cabfrank » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:41 pm

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby Haunted House » Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:45 am

Gotta agree with the OP.
In real world use, I’ve found FRN is more durable, has better grip, better grip with gloves, better grip when wet, less prone to damage, less effected by the elements and it’s lighter.

G-10 is okay. I thought I’d like it more but FRN out performs it.

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby Oloung1 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:16 am

Wartstein wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:43 pm
When it comes to FRN, Seki FRN always felt a bit "softer", more "rubbery" and less "plasticy" and less likely to break than Golden FRN to me (totally subjective and not proven by any test at all - just the feel in hand)
I've noticed this difference too between the Seki & Golden FRN.

My current preference:
Lightweight = Golden FRN
Light Duty = Seki FRN
Medium Duty = G10

I don't have much handle time with FRCP, stainless, CF or TI but it will be interesting to see how those will change my preferences later.

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby MatZio » Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:03 am

My own experience with Spyderco knives say that if i need a lightweight tool, at same time a durable enough handle I use a Spyderco with a FRN handle.

In my daily routine(running, walking with dog, job....) when I carry Spyderco Delica FRN I don't feel that I have knife. FRN is so lightweight when that you see it.

I have knives eg. with G-10 or titanium , but I don't see really advantage over FRN.

FRN is very good material for knife handles. FRN is "lightwieght and extremly strong, .....".
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