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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby p_atrick » Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:36 am

steelcity16 wrote:
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FRN for the win. The Seki stuff is my favorite.
I love my P4LW, but would it feel as sturdy if it were linerless?

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby Notsurewhy » Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:40 am

Hot take: g10 IS plastic.

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby Mushroom » Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:06 am

Notsurewhy wrote:
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Hot take: g10 IS plastic.
LOL!!! :D

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby The Meat man » Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:08 am

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Ha ha! If given a choice, I generally prefer steel lined, but I don't mind unlined FRN/FRCP. As Tom said, they're all good, just different.

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby BornIn1500 » Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:40 am

If you ever wear insulted leather gloves, you'll appreciate the heft of the g10 and liners instead of fumbling with a plastic featherweight. You can keep your red solo cup knives. :D

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby steelcity16 » Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:43 am

p_atrick wrote:
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steelcity16 wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:09 pm
FRN for the win. The Seki stuff is my favorite.
I love my P4LW, but would it feel as sturdy if it were linerless?

I'm not saying they should go linerless, I'm just saying I prefer FRN knives in general. I like the liners on the Delica and Endura. I do think they are making great strides in linerless technology as the Pacific Salt 2 feels much sturdier than the Pacific Salt 1 in my opinion. I haven't put the 2 through enough work to judge if it feels as sturdy as the Endura, but it does feel pretty solid.

I wonder if they could do something like carbon fiber liners to keep the weight down while still adding strength and rigidity?
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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby steelcity16 » Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:45 am

BornIn1500 wrote:
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If you ever wear insulted leather gloves, you'll appreciate the heft of the g10 and liners instead of fumbling with a plastic featherweight. You can keep your red solo cup knives. :D

Yeah, I do like a G10 Military in this instance. Best knife for gloved hands in my opinion. I really want a DLC Cru-ple Military.
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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby Wartstein » Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:53 am

BornIn1500 wrote:
Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:40 am
If you ever wear insulted leather gloves, you'll appreciate the heft of the g10 and liners instead of fumbling with a plastic featherweight. You can keep your red solo cup knives. :D

Don't think we're talking only linerless FRN here, but FRN generally?
I've used both Stretch (FRN and liners) and PM2 (G10 and liners) with insulated gloves... I'd say equally good feel in hand (just the lock of the Stretch is a lot easier to operate with such gloves than the PM2 lock for me).
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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby Doc Dan » Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:17 am

Notsurewhy wrote:
Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:40 am
Hot take: g10 IS plastic.
But G10 is much heavier and more expensive.
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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby Abyss_Fish » Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:00 am

They're both good. And of course it depends where the frn is from, as Golden's is a little slippery and tends to look more plastic-y, while seki's is gorgeously textured and all the seams are hidden.

They're both very strong, but g-10 flexes very little if at all, while frn flexes freely. G-10 has more textural variation and can generally look better when smoothed out, but frn can be molded freely and easily, and texture can be simply molded in. Frn is cheaper, G10 is more ding and heat resistant.

It's like comparing G-10 and Micarta. They're both good and are better at different things. Although I agree with the sentiment that in the modern age there's very little reason to stop moving forward in material technology.
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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby TomAiello » Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:31 am

BornIn1500 wrote:
Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:40 am
If you ever wear insulted leather gloves, you'll appreciate the heft of the g10 and liners instead of fumbling with a plastic featherweight. You can keep your red solo cup knives. :D
You just need winter and summer knives. ;)

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby steelcity16 » Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:38 am

TomAiello wrote:
Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:31 am
BornIn1500 wrote:
Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:40 am
If you ever wear insulted leather gloves, you'll appreciate the heft of the g10 and liners instead of fumbling with a plastic featherweight. You can keep your red solo cup knives. :D
You just need winter and summer knives. ;)

That's the way I look at my knives to be honest. FRN lightweights in spring/summer in shorts, G10 and Micarta for fall/winter in jeans.
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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby James Y » Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:41 am

G10, FRN, whatever. I like ‘em all. For me, my preference of material depends on which knife model it is.

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby Pokey » Sat Aug 08, 2020 11:28 am

I’m carrying some Spyderco plastic in my pocket right now. And the sheath is cardboard, go figure!
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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby Mini2white » Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:11 pm

I have a variety of knives for a reason. Not every knife has to be the same or is suitable for the same construction and materials. Yes FRN is great in some knives but not in others, and it is a choice to not carry plastic sometimes.

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby cabfrank » Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:51 pm

I think I agree with the OP, and my knife collection would certainly prove it. Oddly though, my dream knife is a Spydiechef. I'm conflicted. 😱

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby samdasnake » Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:57 pm

I have a large number of both G10 and FRN spydies. I really like G10 but I usually find myself carrying FRN. When it comes down to it, I really do prefer FRN on users. I agree with OP that there is nothing inferior about FRN given modern technology.

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby archangel » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:20 pm

TkoK83Spy wrote:
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They feel cheap, like toys and even look it! I'm obviously the complete opposite of you :p

Linered G10 > linerless plastic

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby wrdwrght » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:41 pm

I love linered G10.

I marvel at linerless G10 and FRN.

I didn’t care for FRCP. Perhaps it was the mold created for the Manix2, and the use of pins rather than screws. Also, I didn’t get the impression FRCP has the ductility FRN has.

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Re: Plastic Knives are BEST.

Postby RustyIron » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:37 pm

Good to read so many diverse opinions on handle materials. Apparently there's a whole lotta ways that folks like to get all slicey, dicey, sticky, and pokey.


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