AEB-L SE Sheepfoot Push Button Comp Lock Autonomy

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AEB-L SE Sheepfoot Push Button Comp Lock Autonomy

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Hey Sal,

Can we get a PM2 in a SE Sheepfoot blade. And while I was thinking about what steel would work well in a SE Sheepfoot I thought this would be an excellent opportunity to use AEB-L. With the claims of balanced edge retention and ease of sharpening what could be better in a SE, besides H1, VG10 and LC200N which aren’t available in the US or compete with the Caribbean. The PM2 hasn’t been done in this steel yet and it looks to have plenty of room for the Sheepfoot blade. I would be up for a Combo Edge as well if everyone is interested.

The Shaman could be another model for this set up, but the blade would not sit as deep into the scales as normal. That wouldn’t matter because the turn down of the tip would keep it enclosed. This may also eliminate the hump in the comp lock cut out.

Edit: to be any Golden Model
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There are a number of US-made knives in LC200N: Siren, Waterway, Native Salt, Autonomy 2.
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This would pull me out of my Para 2 buying slump. I'll buy any model offered in SE AEB-L just so I can try it out.
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Seems like a Stretch would be a suitable platform; similar size with choil. I’ve been happy with AEB-L in the Urban sprint.
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The Meat man wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:57 pm
There are a number of US-made knives in LC200N: Siren, Waterway, Native Salt, Autonomy 2.
Sorry about the confusion. I meant that VG10 and H1 are not available for US made knifes, I did just remember the Autonomy is H1 though. Also, if it were done in LC200N, which I know is available in the US, it would directly compete the the Sheepfoot LC200N SE Comp Lock Caribbean.

Here is a great article from Larrin on AEB-L:

https://knifesteelnerds.com/2019/03/04/all-about-aeb-l/
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Dazen wrote:
The Meat man wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:57 pm
There are a number of US-made knives in LC200N: Siren, Waterway, Native Salt, Autonomy 2.
Sorry about the confusion. I meant that VG10 and H1 are not available for US made knifes, I did just remember the Autonomy is H1 though. Also, if it were done in LC200N, which I know is available in the US, it would directly compete the the Sheepfoot LC200N SE Comp Lock Caribbean.

Here is a great article from Larrin on AEB-L:

https://knifesteelnerds.com/2019/03/04/all-about-aeb-l/
Spyderco has made US knives in H1, the Autonomy 1. I also imagine they could easily make US knives in vg10 if they wanted to. Considering several other companies all over the world in many different countries make knives with vg10.
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Dazen wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:45 pm
The Meat man wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:57 pm
There are a number of US-made knives in LC200N: Siren, Waterway, Native Salt, Autonomy 2.
Sorry about the confusion. I meant that VG10 and H1 are not available for US made knifes, I did just remember the Autonomy is H1 though. Also, if it were done in LC200N, which I know is available in the US, it would directly compete the the Sheepfoot LC200N SE Comp Lock Caribbean.

Here is a great article from Larrin on AEB-L:

https://knifesteelnerds.com/2019/03/04/all-about-aeb-l/
Ah got it.

I'd be interested in serrated AEB-L, but only if it was heat treated to maximize edge strength and stability. I haven't heard great reports about the AEB-L Urban's edge strength. Seems they ran those a bit soft.
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VooDooChild wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:00 pm
Dazen wrote:
The Meat man wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:57 pm
There are a number of US-made knives in LC200N: Siren, Waterway, Native Salt, Autonomy 2.
Sorry about the confusion. I meant that VG10 and H1 are not available for US made knifes, I did just remember the Autonomy is H1 though. Also, if it were done in LC200N, which I know is available in the US, it would directly compete the the Sheepfoot LC200N SE Comp Lock Caribbean.

Here is a great article from Larrin on AEB-L:

https://knifesteelnerds.com/2019/03/04/all-about-aeb-l/
Spyderco has made US knives in H1, the Autonomy 1. I also imagine they could easily make US knives in vg10 if they wanted to. Considering several other companies all over the world in many different countries make knives with vg10.
I bring up these 3 steels because they are highly admired in SE, and I don’t want to have a discussion about a PM2 in those because I know Spyderco won’t make a PM2 in those 3 steels.
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Has there ever been a sheepsfoot PM2? Any pics, mockups?
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p_atrick wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:42 pm
Has there ever been a sheepsfoot PM2? Any pics, mockups?
Not to my knowledge.
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I'd be interested in the blade shape, but I already have a Caribbean...
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The Meat man wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:14 pm
Dazen wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:45 pm
The Meat man wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:57 pm
There are a number of US-made knives in LC200N: Siren, Waterway, Native Salt, Autonomy 2.
Sorry about the confusion. I meant that VG10 and H1 are not available for US made knifes, I did just remember the Autonomy is H1 though. Also, if it were done in LC200N, which I know is available in the US, it would directly compete the the Sheepfoot LC200N SE Comp Lock Caribbean.

Here is a great article from Larrin on AEB-L:

https://knifesteelnerds.com/2019/03/04/all-about-aeb-l/
Ah got it.

I'd be interested in serrated AEB-L, but only if it was heat treated to maximize edge strength and stability. I haven't heard great reports about the AEB-L Urban's edge strength. Seems they ran those a bit soft.
I don't know, when I first got my Coyote Urban the first thing I did, with the factory edge, is open some metal cans to see what would happen to the edge. Nothing happened. The blade opened the cans with no chipping or rolling.
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curlyhairedboy wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:18 pm
I'd be interested in the blade shape, but I already have a Caribbean...


Yeah exactly, and I strongly prefer the Caribbean grip over a Para 2. I also wonder how different this steel would be in SE vs VG10/H1/LC. It seems like a near perfect steel for serrations.
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Evil D wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:32 am
curlyhairedboy wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:18 pm
I'd be interested in the blade shape, but I already have a Caribbean...


Yeah exactly, and I strongly prefer the Caribbean grip over a Para 2. I also wonder how different this steel would be in SE vs VG10/H1/LC. It seems like a near perfect steel for serrations.
How about the Shaman then, it may end up looking like a folding Enuff?
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Woodpuppy wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:13 pm
Seems like a Stretch would be a suitable platform; similar size with choil. I’ve been happy with AEB-L in the Urban sprint.
A STRETCH in SE would certainly get my interest... (sheepsfoot or not).
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Dazen wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:01 am
Evil D wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:32 am
curlyhairedboy wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:18 pm
I'd be interested in the blade shape, but I already have a Caribbean...
Yeah exactly, and I strongly prefer the Caribbean grip over a Para 2. I also wonder how different this steel would be in SE vs VG10/H1/LC. It seems like a near perfect steel for serrations.
How about the Shaman then, it may end up looking like a folding Enuff?

Like I said I'm down for just about any model with this steel in SE, though I do think it deserves a thin blade stock so it's as slicey as it can be. Someone mentioned the Stretch 2.... wouldn't be my first choice but the blade is fairly thin and tapered so it should slice well.
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Evil D wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:46 am
Dazen wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:01 am
Evil D wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:32 am
curlyhairedboy wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:18 pm
I'd be interested in the blade shape, but I already have a Caribbean...
Yeah exactly, and I strongly prefer the Caribbean grip over a Para 2. I also wonder how different this steel would be in SE vs VG10/H1/LC. It seems like a near perfect steel for serrations.
How about the Shaman then, it may end up looking like a folding Enuff?

Like I said I'm down for just about any model with this steel in SE, though I do think it deserves a thin blade stock so it's as slicey as it can be. Someone mentioned the Stretch 2.... wouldn't be my first choice but the blade is fairly thin and tapered so it should slice well.

If they did the Shaman they could do a hollow grind, like the Yojimbo, and keep it super thin BTE.
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Dazen wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:12 pm
Evil D wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:46 am
Dazen wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:01 am
Evil D wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:32 am


Yeah exactly, and I strongly prefer the Caribbean grip over a Para 2. I also wonder how different this steel would be in SE vs VG10/H1/LC. It seems like a near perfect steel for serrations.
How about the Shaman then, it may end up looking like a folding Enuff?

Like I said I'm down for just about any model with this steel in SE, though I do think it deserves a thin blade stock so it's as slicey as it can be. Someone mentioned the Stretch 2.... wouldn't be my first choice but the blade is fairly thin and tapered so it should slice well.

If they did the Shaman they could do a hollow grind, like the Yojimbo, and keep it super thin BTE.

Well...actually Sal said he´d be working on such a model (though he said nothing about SE or AEB-L)
(Quote: "I am working on a "kissing cousin" of the Shaman. Lighter and used the same ergos, but totally different materials. I'm thinking to make it a high hollow to save weight..." viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86153&p=1406714&hil ... n#p1406714
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Wartstein wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:51 pm


Well...actually Sal said he´d be working on such a model (though he said nothing about SE or AEB-L)
(Quote: "I am working on a "kissing cousin" of the Shaman. Lighter and used the same ergos, but totally different materials. I'm thinking to make it a high hollow to save weight..." viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86153&p=1406714&hil ... n#p1406714
You gotta have the best memory on this forum lol! Thanks for posting the link. I missed that, and am very interested in the high hollow aspect.
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PStone wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:24 pm
Wartstein wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:51 pm


Well...actually Sal said he´d be working on such a model (though he said nothing about SE or AEB-L)
(Quote: "I am working on a "kissing cousin" of the Shaman. Lighter and used the same ergos, but totally different materials. I'm thinking to make it a high hollow to save weight..." viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86153&p=1406714&hil ... n#p1406714
You gotta have the best memory on this forum lol! Thanks for posting the link. I missed that, and am very interested in the high hollow aspect.

I wish it was that way my friend! :o Actually I have a rather BAD memory, but could remember this particular thread cause based on it I myself started one (viewtopic.php?t=86264)

But now I think you might be also interested in a possible FRN Shaman in K390?! :D (see HERE, end of the post: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86153&hilit=shaman+ ... 0#p1406216)
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