Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Discuss Spyderco's products and history.
TomAiello
Member
Posts: 6660
Joined: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:34 pm
Location: Twin Falls, ID

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#81

Post by TomAiello »

sal wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:01 am
We're in communication with Per, (Owner of Damasteel) and he says the raw material for the DC material is 50% - *80% more expensive than their most popular DS93X. We're waiting on lead time info.
Hi Sal,

Do you have any estimate on what that translates to in terms of street price (or MSRP) on the finished knife?

Thanks for looking into it, and for any other thoughts you can share!
User avatar
archangel
Member
Posts: 2372
Joined: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:02 pm
Location: Wuppertal, Germany, Earth

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#82

Post by archangel »

DC18N vs DS93X, of course. I hadn't memorized that the Vanax material goes by DC18N. Thanks guys.
Michael
48 Spydies, 44 different models, 43 different steels
.
Grail knife, still to be acquired: original Tuff by Ed Schempp Feel free to help me find one at a reasonable price...
JRinFL
Member
Posts: 6147
Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:30 am
Location: Unfashionable West End of the Galaxy (SE USA)

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#83

Post by JRinFL »

1. First Choice: Bifrost
2. Second Choice: Odin Heim
3. Really don't want: Super Dense twist

Applause goes to @Superfool for trying to keep this from going off the rails. Mission Creep is a real risk and it requires that it be kept in check, lest the whole thing fail. Remember, this is meant as an attractive and affordable user knife for our UK & European friends, not some surrogate for a custom knife.
"...it costs nothing to be polite." - Winston Churchill
“Maybe the cheese in the mousetrap is an artificially created cheaper price?” -Sal
Friends call me Jim. As do my foes.
M.N.O.S.D. 0001
User avatar
Superfool
Member
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:48 pm
Location: Troublemaker Class, UK, Earth

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#84

Post by Superfool »

TomAiello wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:51 am
archangel wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:07 am
What is DC material? :confused:
The Vanax, basically.
Aaaaaaaaaahhhh.

Nice. Thank you Tom.
David
Always outnumbered; never outgunned.

Proud member of Sal's Troublemaker Class since July 2020
User avatar
Superfool
Member
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:48 pm
Location: Troublemaker Class, UK, Earth

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#85

Post by Superfool »

Was going to do the count up and the poll tonight.
Then I went for a 9 mile walk and ate cod and chips and am about to carb-coma.

Gonna do a full count up and then sort it tomorrow probably.

Get your votes in folks.

Regards, David.
David
Always outnumbered; never outgunned.

Proud member of Sal's Troublemaker Class since July 2020
User avatar
JustinB
Member
Posts: 334
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:26 pm
Location: Nova Scotia

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#86

Post by JustinB »

Heimskringla is my number 1
Sparse Twist is number 2
There isn't really any patter I wouldn't buy
Justin :spyder:
GJMcD
Member
Posts: 45
Joined: Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:12 am
Location: Canada

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#87

Post by GJMcD »

1. Munin
2. Rose
3. Grosserosen

I’ve seen some larger blades in Rose, it almost makes an optical illusion of a rippled surface that looks great.
User avatar
Superfool
Member
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:48 pm
Location: Troublemaker Class, UK, Earth

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#88

Post by Superfool »

GJMcD wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:12 pm
I’ve seen some larger blades in Rose, it almost makes an optical illusion of a rippled surface that looks great.
I agree, but I personally thought it didn't look so hot on smaller blades, so I wen the other way here.
David
Always outnumbered; never outgunned.

Proud member of Sal's Troublemaker Class since July 2020
User avatar
sal
Member
Posts: 17058
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:00 pm
Location: Golden, Colorado USA

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#89

Post by sal »

Hi Mike,

Thanx for chiming in. Gail and I are still in lock-down, but we do go out for some things. You have to work, don't you? Have you ever made a Damasteel razor? What pattern if you did.

sal
User avatar
Superfool
Member
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:48 pm
Location: Troublemaker Class, UK, Earth

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#90

Post by Superfool »

sal wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:11 am
Hi Mike,

Thanx for chiming in. Gail and I are still in lock-down, but we do go out for some things. You have to work, don't you? Have you ever made a Damasteel razor? What pattern if you did.

sal
Hi Sal.
Wondering if you might have hit up the wrong sub with this, as it seems a little out of context.
Regards, David.
David
Always outnumbered; never outgunned.

Proud member of Sal's Troublemaker Class since July 2020
User avatar
archangel
Member
Posts: 2372
Joined: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:02 pm
Location: Wuppertal, Germany, Earth

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#91

Post by archangel »

I think Sal answered this post:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87055&start=60#p1434734
Michael
48 Spydies, 44 different models, 43 different steels
.
Grail knife, still to be acquired: original Tuff by Ed Schempp Feel free to help me find one at a reasonable price...
User avatar
Superfool
Member
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:48 pm
Location: Troublemaker Class, UK, Earth

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#92

Post by Superfool »

archangel wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:51 pm
I think Sal answered this post:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87055&start=60#p1434734
Ah.
Yes, probably.
David
Always outnumbered; never outgunned.

Proud member of Sal's Troublemaker Class since July 2020
Mike Blue
Member
Posts: 206
Joined: Sat May 18, 2013 6:52 pm
Location: up the Okanogan river WA

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#93

Post by Mike Blue »

My apologies for any drift in the thread direction. That's not intended. I support this project wholeheartedly.

Superfool, look to your PMs. I think I shared some basic ideas about patterns and blade profile sizes. For the curious, I recommend a smaller uniform pattern rather than something like the Large Rose. But I like the large patterns too. They won't look good in a small blade. Think of seeing only the top or bottom half of a large rose, not attractive. Plus some of the pattern will be affected by the stock removal process shaping the blade profile. Two factors that should be accounted for in developing this design, IMO.

A very nice feature of Damasteel is that the pattern goes all the way through the billet. It's not superficial, so it will show well no matter the blade grind (flat vs hollow etc.).

I'll leave more crumbs in the straight razor thread.
fixall
Member
Posts: 730
Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:45 am

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#94

Post by fixall »

Mike Blue wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:25 pm
My apologies for any drift in the thread direction. That's not intended. I support this project wholeheartedly.

Superfool, look to your PMs. I think I shared some basic ideas about patterns and blade profile sizes. For the curious, I recommend a smaller uniform pattern rather than something like the Large Rose. But I like the large patterns too. They won't look good in a small blade. Think of seeing only the top or bottom half of a large rose, not attractive. Plus some of the pattern will be affected by the stock removal process shaping the blade profile. Two factors that should be accounted for in developing this design, IMO.

A very nice feature of Damasteel is that the pattern goes all the way through the billet. It's not superficial, so it will show well no matter the blade grind (flat vs hollow etc.).

I'll leave more crumbs in the straight razor thread.
Fantastic information, thanks Mike!
User avatar
Superfool
Member
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:48 pm
Location: Troublemaker Class, UK, Earth

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#95

Post by Superfool »

OK.

I think I am going crazy, partly due to lack of sleep, partly due to being busy as heel at work.

I need someone to check my maths please.
Attachments
metals.jpg
David
Always outnumbered; never outgunned.

Proud member of Sal's Troublemaker Class since July 2020
fixall
Member
Posts: 730
Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:45 am

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#96

Post by fixall »

By my count (using your weighting) it is:

6
Aegir

5
Thor
Hakkapella
Bifrost
Bjorkman's Twist
Hugin

4
Odin's Eye
Vinland
Odim Heim
Munin

3
Sparse Twist

2
Dense Twist

1
Gysinge
Ladder

0
Rose

-1
Super Dense Twist
Baldur

-2
Heimskringla

-3
N/A

-4
Grosserosen

Image

I was really surprised to see how polarizing Vinland is. It received the most votes for both "1st choice" as well as "don't want". Interesting result.

Maybe one final poll with just the patterns that scored a 5 or 6 on it?

Aegir
Thor
Hakkapella
Bifrost
Bjorkman's Twist
Hugin
User avatar
Superfool
Member
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:48 pm
Location: Troublemaker Class, UK, Earth

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#97

Post by Superfool »

Thanks Fixall.

I have been over this 4 times and I think that was where my final check landed me.

I was starting to go crazy.
PSX_20200715_111402.jpg
Ideally, I wanted to get this down to three choices but the decision is so spread out.
David
Always outnumbered; never outgunned.

Proud member of Sal's Troublemaker Class since July 2020
fixall
Member
Posts: 730
Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:45 am

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#98

Post by fixall »

Superfool wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:23 am
Thanks Fixall.

I have been over this 4 times and I think that was where my final check landed me.

I was starting to go crazy.PSX_20200715_111402.jpg

Ideally, I wanted to get this down to three choices but the decision is so spread out.
Hmmm....

Bifrost, Bjorkman's Twist, and Hugin all received a score of 5 with no one voting it as their last choice (Thor and Hakkapella also both scored a 5, but also had people selecting it for their least liked pattern). Maybe start there and throw in Aegir since it scored the highest (although it did have one vote as the least liked pattern)?
User avatar
Superfool
Member
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:48 pm
Location: Troublemaker Class, UK, Earth

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#99

Post by Superfool »

That or smash a 6 option poll out, followed by a 3.

I am just worried that everyone is going to get fed up doing all these polls.
David
Always outnumbered; never outgunned.

Proud member of Sal's Troublemaker Class since July 2020
SG89
Member
Posts: 10587
Joined: Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:42 pm

Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

#100

Post by SG89 »

I think people that truly want this knife don't mind doing polls to get it. I'm sure the process itself and the detractors are frustrating
Spydergirl88
3 Nats, 1 Chap, 1 Sham, 1 Urb
Post Reply