Superfool wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:31 am
What are the benefits of DC18N over any of the others in terms of a small penknife?
Basically, it has the benefit of Vanax at the cutting edge. Vanax has better edge holding and better corrosion resistance than CPM-154 and 12c27.
We're already talking about a knife that has quite a lot of 'show' and the Vanax core adds some 'go' to that.
DS93x is basically CPM-154 and 12c27. Those are both good mid-range steels. 12c27 is what you see in Mora Knives, for example. Really solid, mid-low end steel, basically. CPM-154 is a higher end steel than that--basically in the range of s30v or VG-10.
Vanax is a genuine super steel. We have yet to see Vanax in a production Spyderco, which would make this, even in a damasteel mix, the first time Spyderco used Vanax. I think that's both a big sales point _and_ a big collectible point, which will make this model quite a lot more desirable, and hence much more likely to be a success for Spyderco.
In terms of an average guy's use, that basically boils down to "it'll stay sharp longer." But I really don't think the average guy is going to be the target market for a Damasteel UKPK. The average guy is going to be perfectly happy (and well served) by the BD1n version. And even the 'give me the Range Rover' crowd may be better served by the S110v UKPK variant.
A Damasteel variant is a true 'knife guy' piece. In terms of average use, it will probably be outperformed (no matter what the Damasteel used) by the s110v variant. And if it is run in DS93X, I'd really expect that the BD1n variant would outperform it as well. I'm not sure that DC18N is really going to perform better than BD1n (because absolutely freakin' NO ONE has a DC18N blade to test against at this point--unless DeadBoxHero has some feedback on the performance of the small knife he wanted to make from his tiny little piece), but it certainly has a better shot at it than DS93X.We can expect that the DC18N is going to perform like Vanax (because that's what the actual knife blade would be), but we don't really know that for sure. If it does perform like Vanax, I think that we'll see knife guys around the world lining up to buy a DC18N UKPK.
Basically, I think that if you are looking at a genuine 'knife guy' piece, that will become a collectors item, then DC18N is pretty much the only choice. And if you're not, then why bother going to all the expense of making a Damasteel UKPK that will simply be outperformed by the basic budget model? If performance is an issue, then DC18N wins. And if performance isn't an issue, then this is a collectible bought by people who are just really into knives, either to use and enjoy (regardless of performance) or to put in their safe and occasionally take out and admire, and in that case, DC18N wins even more, because it makes this Uber-collectible.
Edit to add: And fair point that DS93X has already been used in a production knife (the 40th Anniversary Native) where this would be the very first DC18N production knife ever made (by any company), which is yet another big sales/collectible win.
Side note: I think we can safely discount the DS95X (which is basically a mix of 304 and 316, intended for jewelry, not cutlery) and DS92X (which is made for custom firearm barrels, not knives).