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Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Postby Superfool » Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:54 am

OK.

This is prep for the DAMASTEEL poll.

There are 20 patterns for the damasteel here:

https://damasteel.se/patterns/?filter=flat-bars


FIRSTLY: Please go the the website, and click on the patterns, to see examples of what this will look like.
Please actually do this for all the options, and bear in mind the SIZE of the blade. Some patterns suit different things better than others.

SECONDLY: Please copy and paste the following into your response

1. First Choice:
2. Second Choice:
3. Really don't want:


and give me your three answers in the message.

From the looks of the blade shape poll, it is heavily in favour of the LEAF shape blade. It's still early stages in the handle poll, and if it finishes much closer, then I may re-poll to clarify, as I think I may have put too many options on there. By the looks of it Ivory G10 is currently in the lead, but I wonder if I had left micarta off, and only but one CF option on, whether the results may be different.

For this reason, I am going to try and keep the steel options to 3, but 5 at an absolute maximum. I don't want to mess about doing 2 polls of 10, then whittling it down to this over the course of the next decade.

Thank you for all your participation here. I am trying my best to make the Damasteel UKPK decisions as inclusive as I can, and hopefully we will finish up with something that appeals to as many of us as possible. I am also juggling shifts at my hospital, and am absolutely knackered with other stuff going on. I am responding when I am able.

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Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Postby Superfool » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:00 am

1. First Choice: THOR
2. Second Choice: ÆGIR
3. Really don't want: Baldur
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Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Postby Larry_Mott » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:04 am

1. Odins Eye
2. Sparse Twist
3. Rose (Too "Acid trippy" for me)

EDIT: It is kinda hard (i think) to imagine the/a blade in the pattern shown. I really think i would be ok with most of them even if the #1 and 2 i listed are favorites.
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Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Postby Spydergirl88 » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:04 am

1. First Choice: Munin
2. Second Choice: ÆGIR
3. Really don't want: Heimskringla

Thanks for your interest and dedication David

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Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Postby archangel » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:17 am

First choice: Thor // Second choice: Hakkapella > I like patterns that show both small and large circles
Really don't want: Heimskringla > too chaotic
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Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Postby VooDooChild » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:19 am

1. Vinland
2. Sparse twist
3.?
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Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Postby Superfool » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:22 am

archangel wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:17 am
First choice: Hakkapella
Second choice: Thor
Really don't want: Heimskringla; Odin Heim; the two Twists > too chaotic
Pick one please.
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Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Postby archangel » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:27 am

As you wish :p

Oh, and I changed my mind on the order of wish 1 & 2 :p :p ;)
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Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Postby Superfool » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:35 am

archangel wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:27 am
As you wish :p

Oh, and I changed my mind on the order of wish 1 & 2 :p :p ;)
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Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Postby pdixon » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:53 am

1.Dense Twist
2.Odin Heim
3.Rose

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Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Postby Sumdumguy » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:08 am

1. Ægir: Really like the wave pattern.

2. Gysinge: Slightly beat out Hakkapella for this spot
(it would look epic on a Kris)

3. Vinland: Looks like every other damascus pattern coming out of Seki. Doesn't wow me.
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Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Postby Flizwit » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:18 am

1. Vinland
2. Bifrost
3. ÆGIR

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Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Postby The Meat man » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:41 am

First choice: Hakkapella
Second choice: Bjorkman's Twist
Really don't want: Vinland
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Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Postby TomAiello » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:20 pm

Which Damasteel? Isn't choosing the alloy a pre-requisite to choosing the pattern?

A list of the various Damasteel alloys is here: https://damasteel.se/our-steel-alloys/

The actual steel type used is _a lot_ more important to me than the pattern. I VASTLY prefer DC18N to DS93x or DS95x.

If this knife is DC18N, I'm in for multiples, even at a $200 price point. If it runs in DS93X or DS95X, I'm not actually super interested, but it depends on the price.

DC18N is only available in Odins Eye™, Grosserosen™, Hakkapella™, Thor™, Hugin™ and Rose™.

So basically, I vote for "any pattern of DC18N" and I vote against "DS93X or DS95X" regardless of the pattern.


A good review of the steel (which helps explain why I'm so much more interested in DC18N) can be found here: https://knifesteelnerds.com/2018/10/15/ ... ore-dc18n/

DC18N is basically made of Vanax, 12c27 and CPM154, although Damasteel calls them N11X, PMC27 and RWL34, respectively.



1. DC18N (any pattern)

Really don't want: DS93X or DS95X (any pattern).

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Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Postby fixall » Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:12 pm

1. First Choice: Bjorkman's Twist
2. Second Choice: Sparse Twist
3. Really don't want: Rose

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Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Postby fixall » Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:15 pm

TomAiello wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:20 pm
Which Damasteel? Isn't choosing the alloy a pre-requisite to choosing the pattern?

A list of the various Damasteel alloys is here: https://damasteel.se/our-steel-alloys/

The actual steel type used is _a lot_ more important to me than the pattern. I VASTLY prefer DC18N to DS93x or DS95x.

If this knife is DC18N, I'm in for multiples, even at a $200 price point. If it runs in DS93X or DS95X, I'm not actually super interested, but it depends on the price.

DC18N is only available in Odins Eye™, Grosserosen™, Hakkapella™, Thor™, Hugin™ and Rose™.

So basically, I vote for "any pattern of DC18N" and I vote against "DS93X or DS95X" regardless of the pattern.


A good review of the steel (which helps explain why I'm so much more interested in DC18N) can be found here: https://knifesteelnerds.com/2018/10/15/ ... ore-dc18n/

DC18N is basically made of Vanax, 12c27 and CPM154, although Damasteel calls them N11X, PMC27 and RWL34, respectively.



1. DC18N (any pattern)

Really don't want: DS93X or DS95X (any pattern).
Damacore is a cladded steel and not really what most people think of when they think of Damasteel. I am curious about it's pricing though. I imagine N11X (like Vanax) isn't at all cheap.

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Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Postby sal » Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:03 pm

Hi David,

Thanx for doing this. I like to get all of the input I can when trying to create a design that the Afi's are requesting.

Were checking the cost difference in the difference steels. It is my guess that the DC18, requiring Vanax in the mix, will be more costly and harder and take longer to get. But we'll see?

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Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Postby curlyhairedboy » Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:59 pm

As someone who bought damasteel recently, damacore (DC18N) is definitely more expensive than the normal stuff.

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Postby TomAiello » Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:10 pm

Sal, do you have any (rough) guess as to the difference in retail price if this is run in DC18N v. DS93X or DS95X?

Are we talking about $50 more per unit (which I'd totally be up for)? Or $250 more per unit (which would doubtless mean extremely low sales)?

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Re: Damasteel UK Penknife UKPK - DAMASTEEL PATTERN

Postby The Deacon » Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:56 pm

1. First Choice: Hugin
2. Second Choice: Ægir
3. Really don't want: Hakkapella
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