coated lc200n?
coated lc200n?
can we expect to see any coated lc200n blades?
ticn or dlc... a lot of people like coated blades. i know salts don’t need the help with corrosion resistance, but the caribbean and native salt would both look really nice blacked out like my pacific salt or even with black blades and hardware and their standard handles.
ticn or dlc... a lot of people like coated blades. i know salts don’t need the help with corrosion resistance, but the caribbean and native salt would both look really nice blacked out like my pacific salt or even with black blades and hardware and their standard handles.
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current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
Re: coated lc200n?
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Re: coated lc200n?
that was a great looking knife. i wish the standard native salt got the same treatment. at any rate, i'm not a fire fighter and it's not a production knife that's readily available.
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
Re: coated lc200n?
+1 on DLC LC200N!
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Re: coated lc200n?
I thought one of the main reasons for DLC is increased corrosion protection. Seems a bit redundant in an LC200N knife. But if it's just a matter of aesthetics I guess I get it.
Re: coated lc200n?
some coatings, like the thicker ones we see on esee knives for example, are meant to stop corrosion. dlc helps a little, but there are also accounts of rust developing under dlc. for me, it’s more about aesthetics and not having a shiny blade attracting unwanted attention.samdasnake wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:24 pmI thought one of the main reasons for DLC is increased corrosion protection. Seems a bit redundant in an LC200N knife. But if it's just a matter of aesthetics I guess I get it.
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
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Re: coated lc200n?
That makes sense. Interesting to hear of rust developing under dlc. I've never been into coated blades so I guess I never really looked into it. Tho I will say some of the dlc Exlusives (St Nick's for example) are beautiful. Thanks for the info.ladybug93 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:34 pmsome coatings, like the thicker ones we see on esee knives for example, are meant to stop corrosion. dlc helps a little, but there are also accounts of rust developing under dlc. for me, it’s more about aesthetics and not having a shiny blade attracting unwanted attention.samdasnake wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:24 pmI thought one of the main reasons for DLC is increased corrosion protection. Seems a bit redundant in an LC200N knife. But if it's just a matter of aesthetics I guess I get it.
Re: coated lc200n?
I'd love a blacked out Native 5 Salt. I'd also love a black blade and lock bar to match the black hardware on the current Native 5 Salt. I'd also like unlined G10 versions of both of those.
Re: coated lc200n?
As far as DLC developing rust underneath it, was it Vivi (?) who stated that his DLC-coated Manix 2 XL was his only knife, besides his Salt knives, that didn’t develop rust spots, including in the liners? For him, he was adamant that the DLC coating DOES protect against corrosion. Even though many years ago, I emailed Spyderco asking whether DLC provided corrosion resistance and the woman who answered said it does not.
I have no reason to doubt Vivi’s experience (if that was him).
I’ve read someone’s post somewhere that rust under DLC may actually be some other cross-contaminated material rusting, and not the steel under the DLC itself. I don’t know if that’s true or not, just putting that out there. Of course, for LC200N, whether DLC allows corrosion to develop underneath it or not is a moot point. I happen to like DLC, and would like to see an LC200N model with it.
Jim
I have no reason to doubt Vivi’s experience (if that was him).
I’ve read someone’s post somewhere that rust under DLC may actually be some other cross-contaminated material rusting, and not the steel under the DLC itself. I don’t know if that’s true or not, just putting that out there. Of course, for LC200N, whether DLC allows corrosion to develop underneath it or not is a moot point. I happen to like DLC, and would like to see an LC200N model with it.
Jim
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Re: coated lc200n?
This is something I would definitely like to see. I like seeing all of the salt models offered in both DLC and serrated options.
Re: coated lc200n?
Unless you are running blackout missions in a warzone, I don't understand the desire for DLC. It has not been proven to prevent corrosion. It is something to be used in a tactical role or because you think it looks cool.
All I think of when I see a DLC blade, is one of those goober ninjas at the mall.
Each to their own, but I'll pass.
All I think of when I see a DLC blade, is one of those goober ninjas at the mall.
Each to their own, but I'll pass.
"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so."
-Thomas Jefferson
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Re: coated lc200n?
I'd be interested not for tactical or rust-repelling reasons but blacked-out blades tend to be more sheeple friendly than shiny satin ones based on my experience
Re: coated lc200n?
Some have mentioned that a coated blade can prevent glare into their own eyes when working with a knife in direct sunlight. Although I haven’t had that problem myself, it makes perfect sense to me.Sumdumguy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:11 amUnless you are running blackout missions in a warzone, I don't understand the desire for DLC. It has not been proven to prevent corrosion. It is something to be used in a tactical role or because you think it looks cool.
All I think of when I see a DLC blade, is one of those goober ninjas at the mall.
Each to their own, but I'll pass.
Plus, some people just like a coated blade. I do (if it’s DLC). I’d like to see a DLC-coated Pac Salt. It has nothing to do with wanting to be “tacticool”. And of course, if the DLC is on LC200N or H1, whether it prevents corrosion or not is irrelevant.
Jim
Re: coated lc200n?
You know, I never thought about it reflecting back at the user.James Y wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:08 amSome have mentioned that a coated blade can prevent glare into their own eyes when working with a knife in direct sunlight. Although I haven’t had that problem myself, it makes perfect sense to me.Sumdumguy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:11 amUnless you are running blackout missions in a warzone, I don't understand the desire for DLC. It has not been proven to prevent corrosion. It is something to be used in a tactical role or because you think it looks cool.
All I think of when I see a DLC blade, is one of those goober ninjas at the mall.
Each to their own, but I'll pass.
Jim
I've used knives in the deserts or Arizona, to fishing on the Atlantic and I've never had it be an issue(or an experience) either. But, I can see it being completely possible.
If it was the only way to get LC200N(or something else I desire) in a particular model, I'd buy DLC. Otherwise, I'm a satin man!
I would go for some crazy PVD colored blades/hardware. Funky purple, teal, etc.
"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so."
-Thomas Jefferson
-Thomas Jefferson
Re: coated lc200n?
I’ve just had a dumb idea. What if someone like a diver is using a non-coated Salt knife underwater, and the silver blade resembles a fish and attracts the attention of a shark or something, much like a fishing lure? I don’t know. I’m not a diver, and I’m sure there’s probably plenty of other diving equipment that’s shiny(?).Sumdumguy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:38 amYou know, I never thought about it reflecting back at the user.James Y wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:08 amSome have mentioned that a coated blade can prevent glare into their own eyes when working with a knife in direct sunlight. Although I haven’t had that problem myself, it makes perfect sense to me.Sumdumguy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:11 amUnless you are running blackout missions in a warzone, I don't understand the desire for DLC. It has not been proven to prevent corrosion. It is something to be used in a tactical role or because you think it looks cool.
All I think of when I see a DLC blade, is one of those goober ninjas at the mall.
Each to their own, but I'll pass.
Jim
I've used knives in the deserts or Arizona, to fishing on the Atlantic and I've never had it be an issue(or an experience) either. But, I can see it being completely possible.
If it was the only way to get LC200N(or something else I desire) in a particular model, I'd buy DLC. Otherwise, I'm a satin man!
I would go for some crazy PVD colored blades/hardware. Funky purple, teal, etc.
Jim
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Re: coated lc200n?
i actually prefer stonewashed and acid washed blades to coatings, but that’s not something spyderco does much of. only a handful of blades are even stonewashed. i think it looks much better than satin and makes for a better user.
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
Re: coated lc200n?
i brought this up recently as well. i’m really not sure how much of an issue it could be, but it’s possible. i just prefer less reflective blades. although... i was recently taking a picture of my manix 2 under a waterfall and it fell into the water. i wouldn’t have found it if the sun hadn’t hit it just right.James Y wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:54 amI’ve just had a dumb idea. What if someone like a diver is using a non-coated Salt knife underwater, and the silver blade resembles a fish and attracts the attention of a shark or something, much like a fishing lure? I don’t know. I’m not a diver, and I’m sure there’s probably plenty of other diving equipment that’s shiny(?).Sumdumguy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:38 amYou know, I never thought about it reflecting back at the user.James Y wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:08 amSome have mentioned that a coated blade can prevent glare into their own eyes when working with a knife in direct sunlight. Although I haven’t had that problem myself, it makes perfect sense to me.Sumdumguy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:11 amUnless you are running blackout missions in a warzone, I don't understand the desire for DLC. It has not been proven to prevent corrosion. It is something to be used in a tactical role or because you think it looks cool.
All I think of when I see a DLC blade, is one of those goober ninjas at the mall.
Each to their own, but I'll pass.
Jim
I've used knives in the deserts or Arizona, to fishing on the Atlantic and I've never had it be an issue(or an experience) either. But, I can see it being completely possible.
If it was the only way to get LC200N(or something else I desire) in a particular model, I'd buy DLC. Otherwise, I'm a satin man!
I would go for some crazy PVD colored blades/hardware. Funky purple, teal, etc.
Jim
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
Re: coated lc200n?
DLC does look cool on some blades, but I never buy any because satin blades I can repair or modify myself. Other than combat light discipline, I don’t see any practical need for DLC on a Salt knife. And I’m not doing combat, so the tactical benefits don’t apply to me.
It would be interesting to perform a study to learn which of two identical knives cause the lesser consternation among non knife people, the satin or the DLC. I can imagine that going either way.
It would be interesting to perform a study to learn which of two identical knives cause the lesser consternation among non knife people, the satin or the DLC. I can imagine that going either way.
Re: coated lc200n?
I think almost any Spyderco model in the Salt Series would do well with a Ti Ni black coating or any other type of black coating that can endure hard use.
I like black coatings particularly on fixed blades. The maintenance seems to be easier overall. I do think those types of coatings do well in harsh environments.
I like black coatings particularly on fixed blades. The maintenance seems to be easier overall. I do think those types of coatings do well in harsh environments.