heavyweight salts?
heavyweight salts?
can we expect to see more “heavyweight” salts with liners and g10 like the caribbean?
every time suggestions for new salts are mentioned on the forum, they are quickly overrun by requests for lightweight backlocks, but i’d really like to see some lined g10 models in salt versions, especially golden comp lock models. the manix is my favorite, but i think the comp lock models would be easier to produce and are probably better sellers.
i’m not a huge fan of the caribbean, but i want one anyway because it’s the only knife that fits this description. i’d love to see more knives like the caribbean, starting with the yojimbo and lil native.
every time suggestions for new salts are mentioned on the forum, they are quickly overrun by requests for lightweight backlocks, but i’d really like to see some lined g10 models in salt versions, especially golden comp lock models. the manix is my favorite, but i think the comp lock models would be easier to produce and are probably better sellers.
i’m not a huge fan of the caribbean, but i want one anyway because it’s the only knife that fits this description. i’d love to see more knives like the caribbean, starting with the yojimbo and lil native.
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C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
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current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
Re: heavyweight salts?
okay... i guess i'm the only one. :cool:
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current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
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Re: heavyweight salts?
Im not against it.
Im always down for more Golden models or more salts. This also reminds me I need to pick up the Autonomys, and the Siren.
Im also down for more large folders. It drives me crazy that the resilience has the most cutting edge out of the entire production lineup. Something should dethrone it.
But yeah... a Golden made almost Caribbean or something would be neat.
Im always down for more Golden models or more salts. This also reminds me I need to pick up the Autonomys, and the Siren.
Im also down for more large folders. It drives me crazy that the resilience has the most cutting edge out of the entire production lineup. Something should dethrone it.
But yeah... a Golden made almost Caribbean or something would be neat.
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Re: heavyweight salts?
I think I’ve mentioned somewhere, sometime ago, that I’d like to see Golden-made, LC200N Salt versions of the PM2, Para 3 and Military. With G10 scales, like the originals. I don’t know if that makes them ‘heavyweights,’ but they wouldn’t be lightweights.
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Re: heavyweight salts?
I'll admit that I do really love the simplicity of the lightweight Salts, even if the back lock isn't my favorite lock overall it's a winning combo. I would however buy other existing non lightweight models if they were made in Salt form like the Caribbean. The Shaman is first on that list for me.
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Re: heavyweight salts?
The light weight is one of my favorite features of the Salt lineup, but for those who want heavyweights, why the heck not?
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Re: heavyweight salts?
If I were actually going into the ocean, I would take my Pacific Salt (like I have done). But I would like more G10, LC200N Salts in the lineup, just to have those designs in essentially corrosion-proof versions. Plus, I love me some LC200N. :) I would love to see a PM2 Salt in SE.
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Re: heavyweight salts?
i just use "heavyweight" as a contrast to lightweight. we're really only talking about a couple of ounces. i don't consider any models to be very heavy.
i agree that it's a winning combo. i have three lw salts myself and love them.Evil D wrote: I'll admit that I do really love the simplicity of the lightweight Salts, even if the back lock isn't my favorite lock overall it's a winning combo. I would however buy other existing non lightweight models if they were made in Salt form like the Caribbean. The Shaman is first on that list for me.
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current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
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Re: heavyweight salts?
I would be down a for Manix 2 XL in LC200N and rustproof hardware or a Titanium framelock Military in LC200N. Since I am dreaming might as well throw in for titanium versions of the police and civilian in LC200N. Really if you put titanium and LC200N on the same Spyderco I must have it.
Re: heavyweight salts?
I want all my Salts Heavyweight!
I prefer a bit of heft.
I prefer a bit of heft.
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Re: heavyweight salts?
I'm not an avid fisherman or anything, so if I'm around water enough to carry a salt, I'm probably in swim trunks. That being the case, I prefer lightweights.
I see the reasoning behind wanting more "heavyweight" salts though. The Caribbean seems to be popular, I'd imagine a salt pm2 or shaman would sell like hotcakes.
I see the reasoning behind wanting more "heavyweight" salts though. The Caribbean seems to be popular, I'd imagine a salt pm2 or shaman would sell like hotcakes.
Re: heavyweight salts?
I'd like to see more Ti frame lock Salts like the Spydiechef. I'm not enamored with the idea of sand and silt getting into a comp lock between the liners and the scales. I'd also like to see unlined G10 Salts. So, a reissue of the Sage 2 with LC200N blade, and a Native 5 G10 Salt would both make me very happy.
Re: heavyweight salts?
I think a salt military, PM2, manix, para3, and shaman would all do well. The native Salt is a hint at that idea. Not sure why the rest haven’t happened.
Re: heavyweight salts?
i definitely understand that sentiment. i enjoy lc200n as a great edc steel though. and, while s30v and many others are perfectly adequate in corrosion resistance for most things, i like being able to cut my kids‘ food and put my knife away for safety before getting back to it to clean it when i have time. that’s just one example of when i find it handy to have lc200n in edc use.Notsurewhy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:11 pmI'm not an avid fisherman or anything, so if I'm around water enough to carry a salt, I'm probably in swim trunks. That being the case, I prefer lightweights.
I see the reasoning behind wanting more "heavyweight" salts though. The Caribbean seems to be popular, I'd imagine a salt pm2 or shaman would sell like hotcakes.
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
Re: heavyweight salts?
I'd love a Salt version of the Yojimbo 2 in LC200N, but I think the biggest obstacle with creating a Salt knife with steel liners is cost: The liners would have to be made from LC200N or a "marine grade" stainless steel like SAE 316L. All the screws and other metal parts would similarly have to be highly corrosion-resistant (either due to their innate chemistry, or through surface treatments/coatings). And then you have to take into account the potential for galvanic corrosion (as was seen, at least anecdotally, in some specimens of the Caribbean and the SpydieChef)—this is a problem that can probably be best solved with the use of non-conductive surface coatings, but coatings can and will wear away.ladybug93 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:44 amcan we expect to see more “heavyweight” salts with liners and g10 like the caribbean?
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i’m not a huge fan of the caribbean, but i want one anyway because it’s the only knife that fits this description. i’d love to see more knives like the caribbean, starting with the yojimbo and lil native.
I think a Yojimbo 2 Salt is do-able, but whether or not there is enough popular demand for one to justify the development and production costs, that's another question entirely.
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Re: heavyweight salts?
I'd love to have an Endura Salt and Delica Salt. FFG LC200N with the pointier tips and LC200N liners.
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Re: heavyweight salts?
I'm down for more salt compression lock knives!
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Re: heavyweight salts?
I still prefer the backlock. I would not mind a model with LC200N liners or something. Cost would be a killer.
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Re: heavyweight salts?
I wonder what a FRN/steel liner back lock with all LC200N components would cost compared to a Caribbean. Seems like the additional lock bar may end up requiring more materials than a compression lock since they just use one of the liners.
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Re: heavyweight salts?
I think it would be expensive. The current light weights are already around $100 plus or minus, depending.
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