Delica is related to Seki, so if they push production prices up (which is a yearly standard by 1-5% in my industry), so will Spyderco.BornIn1500 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:09 amHas there ever been an instance when they've lowered a price on something? I mean, if we were to apply that same logic to other things... the Delica must have R&D expenses and mold expenses paid off by now, but the price keeps going up. I don't see the cost of SPY27 models getting lowered. Just wishful thinking.
Manix 2 LW is quite a bit more expensive too. It's almost the same price as the S110V model. Which is kind of surprising to me. Great steel from what I can tell so far but I don't see it as being that much better than something like BD1N. SPY27 might hold an edge a little longer (IDK) but, I sharpened both steels last night, and they seemed very similar to me. I'm still in for a Manix 2 LW but if this is going to replace S30V (my guess is that's the plan) I don't think it'll go over very well if the price of all those models is going to increase substantially because of it. Having a proprietary steel is cool and all but I'm not sure how many new models I'll be purchasing with it if the price is going to be much higher than something with comparable steel. I guess time will tell how this all plays out.BornIn1500 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:02 pmBut what makes it confusing is that while the Para 3 is up $42 from using SPY27, the Mule in SPY27 is lower than many other previous Mules and that's using even more of this steel than a Para3. I'm not making sense of it.
Exactly. And until then, I'm willing to pay a bit of a premium for it on models I like to support their efforts to develop a great edc steel.pantagana23 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:27 amThis.JuPaul wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:07 pmWell presumably the more of it they use, the cheaper it'd get. And once the R&D expenses are offset, they could lower the price as well. I would guess that spyderco hopes to make these competitive with s30v models, at least.dj moonbat wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:59 pmHmm. When I heard Spyderco had Crucible make them some steel, I assumed they intended to make it one of their standard steels. I’m definitely less interested at those kinds of prices.
If Spyderco is to justify development cost of a steel exclusive to them, should be pushing it to more models so the price drops.
SPY27, however, needs to be proven and recognized as a well rounded steel first.
Alright we'll keep this to US models. Have they ever lowered a price on anything American made just because "R&D has been paid off"? I think pushing people to buy it thinking it will lower the price eventually is a futile attempt. I'm just saying I think this SPY27 pricing will stick around.
BornIn1500 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:47 pmAlright we'll keep this to US models. Have they ever lowered a price on anything American made just because "R&D has been paid off"? I think pushing people to buy it thinking it will lower the price eventually is a futile attempt. I'm just saying I think this SPY27 pricing will stick around.
I definitely took it to a higher level of polish than the factory does - this was going up to 1500 grit with diamond stones, then using 9 and 6 micron lapping films on a kme system. It will very cleanly slice newsprint now. I also thinned out the edge a little bit (from the factory it was about 18° on one side, 20° on the other, and I set it at 17dps).
Thanks! I have a ton of respect for the freehand sharpeners on here, but I really do love the KME. It's fun to use, and versatile. I'm just learning how to strop with it, and to sharpen a convex edge. Next I'm planning to try out different stones - ceramics first, and water stones, eventually.TkoK83Spy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:18 pmAs always, great edge Julia! I really need to step up to a nice guided system. Some of you guys/gals get some amazingly consistent and great edges. I'm totally lost when it comes to the microns thing!
Once I do...I'm going to have plenty of threads with plenty of questions
Keep your impressions coming everyone! This one has tempted me, though the high price for comparable steels has kept me away, and my dislike of frn. I feel I need at least one, heck..."Spy" is in my username haha!
G10 in that beautiful cobalt blue would be an easy "take my money Sal"