Shaman in S110V

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Re: Shaman in S110V

Postby Baron Mind » Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:34 pm

K490 looks awesome

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Re: Shaman in S110V

Postby wade7575 » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:59 pm

sal wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:31 pm
Hi Wade,

I know that we have a sprint coming out with Canvas Micarta and a different steel. I know there are a number of "Exclusives" IN-the-works. The Shaman design has proven to please a few. This means there will be variations.

S90 or higher is not clear. Higher in what area, or better still whattauwant?

sal
I think another great steel would be S390,I don't think I have seen you guys make anything with steel yet that would be my first choice and then M390.

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Re: Shaman in S110V

Postby jpm2 » Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:19 pm

wade7575 wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:59 pm
sal wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:31 pm
Hi Wade,

I know that we have a sprint coming out with Canvas Micarta and a different steel. I know there are a number of "Exclusives" IN-the-works. The Shaman design has proven to please a few. This means there will be variations.

S90 or higher is not clear. Higher in what area, or better still whattauwant?

sal
I think another great steel would be S390,I don't think I have seen you guys make anything with steel yet that would be my first choice and then M390.
What is it about s390 that stands out to you?

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Re: Shaman in S110V

Postby wade7575 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:26 pm

jpm2 wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:19 pm
wade7575 wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:59 pm
sal wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:31 pm
Hi Wade,

I know that we have a sprint coming out with Canvas Micarta and a different steel. I know there are a number of "Exclusives" IN-the-works. The Shaman design has proven to please a few. This means there will be variations.

S90 or higher is not clear. Higher in what area, or better still whattauwant?

sal
I think another great steel would be S390,I don't think I have seen you guys make anything with steel yet that would be my first choice and then M390.
What is it about s390 that stands out to you?

From what I have seen so far S390 seems to have really good edge retention and from people are saying it performs great.

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Re: Shaman in S110V

Postby jpm2 » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:09 pm

wade7575 wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:26 pm
jpm2 wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:19 pm
wade7575 wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:59 pm
sal wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:31 pm
Hi Wade,

I know that we have a sprint coming out with Canvas Micarta and a different steel. I know there are a number of "Exclusives" IN-the-works. The Shaman design has proven to please a few. This means there will be variations.

S90 or higher is not clear. Higher in what area, or better still whattauwant?

sal
I think another great steel would be S390,I don't think I have seen you guys make anything with steel yet that would be my first choice and then M390.
What is it about s390 that stands out to you?
From what I have seen so far S390 seems to have really good edge retention and from people are saying it performs great.
I can't seem to find out much. Is there an edge retention comparison to maxamet you know of?

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Re: Shaman in S110V

Postby TomAiello » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:42 pm

The reports (which are just internet reports, so take with a grain of salt) are that s390 has better edge stability than Maxamet with similar edge retention.

Some information here: https://www.kase-knives.com/start/insig ... at-steels/

I believe the owner of that site (who is a custom maker) has appeared on this forum before.

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Re: Shaman in S110V

Postby jpm2 » Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:06 pm

TomAiello wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:42 pm
The reports (which are just internet reports, so take with a grain of salt) are that s390 has better edge stability than Maxamet with similar edge retention.

Some information here: https://www.kase-knives.com/start/insig ... at-steels/

I believe the owner of that site (who is a custom maker) has appeared on this forum before.
That was an interesting demonstration on video.
The micrographs of k390 on that same page are also interesting.

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Re: Shaman in S110V

Postby wade7575 » Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:48 am

Another great new steel I'd like to see Spyderco use on the Manix 2 PM2 Para 3 and the Shaman would be M398 which is supposed to be an improved version of M390 whith even more wear resistance.

https://knifesteelnerds.com/2019/05/06/bohler-m398/

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Re: Shaman in S110V

Postby BornIn1500 » Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:04 am

wade7575 wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:48 am
Another great new steel I'd like to see Spyderco use on the Manix 2 PM2 Para 3 and the Shaman would be M398 which is supposed to be an improved version of M390 whith even more wear resistance.

https://knifesteelnerds.com/2019/05/06/bohler-m398/
"it is apparent that the design of M398 is all about wear resistance and essentially ignores toughness"

Toughness look to be very bad. Like not just a little worse than M390, but a lot worse. A thread from bladeforums last year said M398 cannot be cold rolled because it's too brittle and will crack. So apparently it won't be available in a bar or sheet anyway.


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