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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby curlyhairedboy » Wed May 27, 2020 3:17 am

Well, I do have some of the H1 serrations to compare to, and those are pretty pointy as well. Guess we'll see when my Tenacious arrives!
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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby marshmallow » Thu May 28, 2020 7:30 am

is the Salt 2 basically a Pacific Salt 2 mini?
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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby Wartstein » Thu May 28, 2020 7:38 am

marshmallow wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 7:30 am
is the Salt 2 basically a Pacific Salt 2 mini?

Yes it is. Actually the Salt 2 is a linerless and totally rustproof version of the Delica 4, the Pac Salt 2 of the Endura 4 (true evem for blade stock: Salt 2.5mm, Pac Salt 3mm, as it is with Delica vs Endura)
Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40

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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby JD Spydo » Thu May 28, 2020 8:39 am

Evil D wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 5:57 pm
PeaceInOurTime wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 4:13 pm

I've found that unless I'm cutting on a surface (i.e. cutting boards), I really have no use for "positively" curved and/or angled blades on my pocket knives. Wharncliffes and hawkbills work better in my day to day cutting tasks. Make it SE and it's even better :)


Negative blade angles or at the very least a neutral angle is where it's at. As you mentioned, unless the knife is something I really plan to use in cutting board type situations I have no use for upswept blades/bellies/angles. The vast majority of stuff I cut I'm holding in my off hand.

That said, a sheepsfoot CAN do food prep if you just keep your fingers out of the way. It isn't ideal, but then no folder is ideal for food prep IMO. This is another one of those "grasping at straws" arguments that I used to make against serrations (food prep I mean).

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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby Evil D » Thu May 28, 2020 8:42 am

marshmallow wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 7:30 am
is the Salt 2 basically a Pacific Salt 2 mini?

It's the same as an Endura to a Delica.
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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby Monty » Thu May 28, 2020 3:25 pm

I believe the salt 2 has a slightly thicker handle than the delica.

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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby tonijedi » Thu May 28, 2020 3:27 pm

Monty wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 3:25 pm
I believe the salt 2 has a slightly thicker handle than the delica.
Yes, it does.

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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby Wartstein » Thu May 28, 2020 4:11 pm

tonijedi wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 3:27 pm
Monty wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 3:25 pm
I believe the salt 2 has a slightly thicker handle than the delica.
Yes, it does.

Interesting! They also said this about the Pac Salt 2 (handle thicker than on the Endura), but in that case it's seemingly not true someone who measured the thicknesses said.
Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40

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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby bbturbodad » Thu May 28, 2020 4:37 pm

Wartstein wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 4:11 pm
tonijedi wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 3:27 pm
Monty wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 3:25 pm
I believe the salt 2 has a slightly thicker handle than the delica.
Yes, it does.

Interesting! They also said this about the Pac Salt 2 (handle thicker than on the Endura), but in that case it's seemingly not true someone who measured the thicknesses said.
I just checked...

Delica 10mm
Salt 2 (Tasman) 10.9mm

Lockbar is thicker too.
Delica 2.50mm
Salt 2 (Tasman) 2.75mm

Measured across where the top screw would be if clip was set up for tip down carry (just above pivot)
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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby Wartstein » Thu May 28, 2020 4:41 pm

bbturbodad wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 4:37 pm
Wartstein wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 4:11 pm
tonijedi wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 3:27 pm
Monty wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 3:25 pm
I believe the salt 2 has a slightly thicker handle than the delica.
Yes, it does.

Interesting! They also said this about the Pac Salt 2 (handle thicker than on the Endura), but in that case it's seemingly not true someone who measured the thicknesses said.
I just checked...

Delica 10mm
Salt 2 (Tasman) 10.9mm

Lockbar is thicker too.
Delica 2.50mm
Salt 2 (Tasman) 2.75mm

Measured across where the top screw would be if clip was set up for tip down carry (just above pivot)
Thanks! :)

But the actual bladestock of the Salt still is just 2.5, or 2. 75 like the lockbar?!
Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40

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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby bbturbodad » Thu May 28, 2020 5:24 pm

Wartstein wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 4:41 pm
bbturbodad wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 4:37 pm
Wartstein wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 4:11 pm
tonijedi wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 3:27 pm


Yes, it does.

Interesting! They also said this about the Pac Salt 2 (handle thicker than on the Endura), but in that case it's seemingly not true someone who measured the thicknesses said.
I just checked...

Delica 10mm
Salt 2 (Tasman) 10.9mm

Lockbar is thicker too.
Delica 2.50mm
Salt 2 (Tasman) 2.75mm

Measured across where the top screw would be if clip was set up for tip down carry (just above pivot)
Thanks! :)

But the actual bladestock of the Salt still is just 2.5, or 2. 75 like the lockbar?!
Yes bladestock is 2.5. I never noticed this until today?

Here's a pic...
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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby JD Spydo » Fri May 29, 2020 8:29 am

One thing that drives people from ever using one of Spyderco's models with Teeth. One must consider that not all serrated blades are created equal. But once a person actually tries and uses a true-blue SPYDEREDGE they immediately change their way of thinking.

There are many Spyderco models that I love just as much in SE and I do in PE. One model that immediately comes to mind is the C-60 Ayoob model. That model is awesome on both edge types.

I do think that David and I both agree that the ULIZE model would be a much, much better folder in SE. And why Spyderco doesn't at least offer up one "Recurve" model in SE. The ULIZE or SPYKER in SE would be a "Dream Come True".

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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby curlyhairedboy » Fri May 29, 2020 11:37 am

I'd be down for a ulize in s30v and spyderedge...
EDC Rotation: PITS, Shaman, CF S90v Shaman, Ikuchi, Amalgam, CruCarta Shaman, DLC Lil Native, Sage 5 LW, 4V Shaman, Watu, Rex 45 Shaman, Rex 45 Lil Native, Caribbean Sheepsfoot CQI, Tanto PM2, Serrated Shaman
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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby JD Spydo » Fri May 29, 2020 12:45 pm

curlyhairedboy wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 11:37 am
I'd be down for a ulize in s30v and spyderedge...
Hey "curlyhairedboy" I'm just curious? Being you like S30V in SE I'm wondering if you ever tried it's predecessor 440V in SE?. Because I love 440V in SE and that I think would be even a better pick for a serrated ULIZE model.

But on the other hand I wouldn't let an item like a blade steel selection bother me if they did decide to go ahead and do that for us.

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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby curlyhairedboy » Fri May 29, 2020 12:50 pm

I'll be honest, I haven't tried 440v!
EDC Rotation: PITS, Shaman, CF S90v Shaman, Ikuchi, Amalgam, CruCarta Shaman, DLC Lil Native, Sage 5 LW, 4V Shaman, Watu, Rex 45 Shaman, Rex 45 Lil Native, Caribbean Sheepsfoot CQI, Tanto PM2, Serrated Shaman
Always in Pocket: Hawkbill Dragonfly 2 H1
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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby Evil D » Sat May 30, 2020 7:18 am

I'd buy a SE Ulize in 8CR if that's what it takes to get one into production. I'm in for literally any steel Spyderco has ever used, doesn't matter.
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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby JD Spydo » Sun May 31, 2020 12:01 pm

Like EVIL D pointed out quite some time ago that serrated blades in full flat grind make for a really aggressive cutter. The Stretch immediately comes to mind as well as the big C-54 Calypso which is one of my all time favorite serrated blades. Also serrated edges with a belly or even a slight belly like the one on the original C-44 Dyad. Also the first run serrated Ayoob model is a very agressive cutter as well.

But EVIL D is right>> we need more Spyderedges on full flat grinds.

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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby James Y » Sun May 31, 2020 12:12 pm

I’ve had my eye on the SE Endela, as I’ve always had good luck with SE VG-10, plus it’s FFG. Up to now, I’ve never owned a Spyderco that is both SE and FFG. Maybe someday, when the income starts flowing again. :)

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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby Evil D » Sun May 31, 2020 3:09 pm

JD Spydo wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 12:01 pm
Like EVIL D pointed out quite some time ago that serrated blades in full flat grind make for a really aggressive cutter. The Stretch immediately comes to mind as well as the big C-54 Calypso which is one of my all time favorite serrated blades. Also serrated edges with a belly or even a slight belly like the one on the original C-44 Dyad. Also the first run serrated Ayoob model is a very agressive cutter as well.

But EVIL D is right>> we need more Spyderedges on full flat grinds.


It was the SE Stretch that opened my eyes to it. It's a fairly thin blade especially towards the tip. It was really the SE Stretch that brought me to love SE, despite the fact that my very first Spyderco was a SE Native, it just didn't click until I got that Stretch.
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Re: Most Ideal PE Or Spyderedge

Postby JD Spydo » Sun May 31, 2020 6:16 pm

Evil D wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 3:09 pm
JD Spydo wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 12:01 pm
Like EVIL D pointed out quite some time ago that serrated blades in full flat grind make for a really aggressive cutter. The Stretch immediately comes to mind as well as the big C-54 Calypso which is one of my all time favorite serrated blades. Also serrated edges with a belly or even a slight belly like the one on the original C-44 Dyad. Also the first run serrated Ayoob model is a very agressive cutter as well.

But EVIL D is right>> we need more Spyderedges on full flat grinds.


It was the SE Stretch that opened my eyes to it. It's a fairly thin blade especially towards the tip. It was really the SE Stretch that brought me to love SE, despite the fact that my very first Spyderco was a SE Native, it just didn't click until I got that Stretch.
If you ever get a chance to get your hands on a first generation C-54 Calypso in SE. If you liked that Stretch in SE then you'll love that big Calypso. It was one of the biggest regrets I've had to this day when I traded mine away.

I'm still just baffled why Spyderco doesn't at least do one "recurve" model in SE >> My first pick would be the ULIZE but the SPYKER would be great in SE Too


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