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Re: Going to the SpyOpera.
Definitely interested. Really hoping for PB washers instead of nylon.
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yes, you are righttoocool006 wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 5:40 pmI wish it was a little slimmer stock than 3mm, but loving the looks of this guy!
Also I could be mistaken, buy isn't MAP 70% now? Making street price of $175?
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Re: Going to the SpyOpera.
The reveal last night and this thread got me to pull out my two LionSteel Operas and do the scale swap I've been putting off for years.
While they were apart, I took a few photos of the construction. BIG FAT DISCLAIMER : these are $90 knives and the SpyOpera is going to be a $175 knife. I hope that along with the upgrade of steel from D2 to M390, hollow to flat grind, crowned spine and titanium liners that the liners and lockbar assembly is screwed rather than pinned and the pivot assembly is actually adjustable.
The size, crowned spine and the M390 are very attractive to me and more I think about it the more I suspect that I'll get a SpyOpera when they are released with full knowledge that the first thing I'll need to do is redo the obtuse bevels as has been my experience with all of my Italian made knives, irrespective of maker.
Scale swap done.
Anyway, the olive handled, now with thumb-stud version is going in my pocket for today in anticipation of a SpyOpera.
While they were apart, I took a few photos of the construction. BIG FAT DISCLAIMER : these are $90 knives and the SpyOpera is going to be a $175 knife. I hope that along with the upgrade of steel from D2 to M390, hollow to flat grind, crowned spine and titanium liners that the liners and lockbar assembly is screwed rather than pinned and the pivot assembly is actually adjustable.
The size, crowned spine and the M390 are very attractive to me and more I think about it the more I suspect that I'll get a SpyOpera when they are released with full knowledge that the first thing I'll need to do is redo the obtuse bevels as has been my experience with all of my Italian made knives, irrespective of maker.
Scale swap done.
Anyway, the olive handled, now with thumb-stud version is going in my pocket for today in anticipation of a SpyOpera.
Re: Going to the SpyOpera.
At first glance it was my least favorite of the bunch. Then I kept thinking about it and the SpyOpera really has great materials and I think it may have become my favorite from thus bunch now, along with the Swayback...
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Definitely going to hold off until I see independent HRC results for this one
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This was the one that I was really interested in, but as a lefty it looks like it is right hand only. Too bad, especially with the wire clip it would have been so easy to make this a lefty friendly knife.
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I'm very interested, my only concern is the steel. How does it compare to S30 and VG10 in terms of rust resistance?
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Pretty good, according to this chart from Larrin at Knife Steel Nerds:The Deacon wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 3:03 pmI'm very interested, my only concern is the steel. How does it compare to S30 and VG10 in terms of rust resistance?
(If you click on it it'll be more readable)
Here's the full article where he goes in depth into the details:
https://knifesteelnerds.com/2019/10/14/ ... e-testing/
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Re: Going to the SpyOpera.
ivtecdaily wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 5:48 pmI would so be into this but for one glaring fault, no left hand option! It's especially annoying that for some reason the Swayback being an obvious right hand design in every way has a left hand option. But a unique small lockback isn't? I don't get it at all.
Same. Still under consideration though. May get it and just deal with the clip placement or carry it clipless. Did make this exception for the Baby Horn (which is a favorite).
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The Baby Horn, without the clip, is near perfection.Nate wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 5:16 amivtecdaily wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 5:48 pmI would so be into this but for one glaring fault, no left hand option! It's especially annoying that for some reason the Swayback being an obvious right hand design in every way has a left hand option. But a unique small lockback isn't? I don't get it at all.
Same. Still under consideration though. May get it and just deal with the clip placement or carry it clipless. Did make this exception for the Baby Horn (which is a favorite).
With the clip, not so much.
On this size range in backlocks, I always(usually) prefer clipless.
I hope this knife is okay, QC wise. It's going to have to be on it's game, to attempt competing with the BH.
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Re: Going to the SpyOpera.
I'm not sure I like the gap at the end of the blade when closed.
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That’s my one sort of issue. Overall looks really appealing and Micarta + crowned spine sounds fantastic.Mini2white wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 1:56 pmI'm not sure I like the gap at the end of the blade when closed.
Re: Going to the SpyOpera.
That gap has always bugged me a bit on my delicas, and the SpyOpera's appears even bigger. But it's something I get over since I love everything else about the model. Hoping this'll be the same.Mini2white wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 1:56 pmI'm not sure I like the gap at the end of the blade when closed.
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Re: Going to the SpyOpera.
At first sight, i thought i might need to go to the SpyOpera! I may still be open to it. The pricing seems a little rich unless the construction is screwed with adjustable pivot unlike the LionSteel Opera. Thanks, PSquared, for the photos and details.
I have no objection to a little exposed tang on a closed knife. These models are two of my favorites, even with exposed tangs.
Like Rivy, Mini and Ju, I think the gaping maw between handle and tang might be too much for me on the SpyOpera. It is, after all a knife that should be nice in the pocket, right?
The HT could be a concern, but i think that Spyderco's oversight and QC should prevail. Spyderco is a THE market leader on production HT. Also the additional $100 over the LionSteel Opera should be paying for something, no?
I remain curious, though not overly optimistic that i will add one to my pile.
I have no objection to a little exposed tang on a closed knife. These models are two of my favorites, even with exposed tangs.
Like Rivy, Mini and Ju, I think the gaping maw between handle and tang might be too much for me on the SpyOpera. It is, after all a knife that should be nice in the pocket, right?
The HT could be a concern, but i think that Spyderco's oversight and QC should prevail. Spyderco is a THE market leader on production HT. Also the additional $100 over the LionSteel Opera should be paying for something, no?
I remain curious, though not overly optimistic that i will add one to my pile.
Re: Going to the SpyOpera.
The thing that makes me the most curious about this release is the lil Lionspy. I carried one for a while and I really enjoyed it. It's different from what I usually carry but it's a solid knife.
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Re: Going to the SpyOpera.
maybe I am an outliner here. When I read the Reveal 5 for the first time, Spyopera is on top of the my list. BUt after I did some background study on the original lionsteel Opera knife, I think the original one looks better.
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I've never been a big fan of those really small knives in the past. But in spite of that I wouldn't mind trying out a small folder with M390.
This one might be tempting. One other I wouldn't mind seeing again would be a KOPA model with some great materials and super blade steel.
This one might be tempting. One other I wouldn't mind seeing again would be a KOPA model with some great materials and super blade steel.
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Love almost everything about this knife, the only thing that concerns me is lack of ricasso. I generally drop it on my finger when one hand closing backlocks. I see some subconscious finger choppy in my future. :eek:
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It is a great looking design. I hope the quality matches the price. It has all the goodies we want in a knife.
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Re: Going to the SpyOpera.
I've wanted a Spyderco with Micarta handles and a premium stainless blade. While I prefer liner-less, I'm happy with Ti liners instead of steel, and I'm very happy with the wire clip. As much as I like the looks of the Swayback, the SpyOpera is looking like a relative bargain.