St. Nick's 4v pm2!

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Re: St. Nick's 4v pm2!

Postby Maxemetman » Fri May 15, 2020 4:50 pm

Man I would‘be loved this! It would’ve matched my T1C holster edc setup perfectly! Anyone wanna sell theirs pm me 😜

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Re: St. Nick's 4v pm2!

Postby CXXX » Fri May 15, 2020 5:12 pm

grg wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 4:36 pm
CXXX wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 6:44 pm
Just counted 67 of these on the auction site that are for sale or sold...
the price is coming down from when they were first on ebay.I guess most people that want one bad have got one.
True, I have tracked 74 that have sold with an average sold price of $286.88, lowest price sold was today (6/15/2020) $232.50. There are 28 for sale.
So 102 knives being flipped out of the total sold.

Interesting a lot of DLT Manix 2 Red M390 knives for sale ahead of the re-release of that knife.
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Re: St. Nick's 4v pm2!

Postby AwayFromMySpydieHole » Fri May 15, 2020 5:18 pm

CXXX wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 5:12 pm
grg wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 4:36 pm
CXXX wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 6:44 pm
Just counted 67 of these on the auction site that are for sale or sold...
the price is coming down from when they were first on ebay.I guess most people that want one bad have got one.
True, I have tracked 74 that have sold with an average sold price of $286.88, lowest price sold was today (6/15/2020) $232.50. There are 28 for sale.
So 102 knives being flipped out of the total sold.

Interesting a lot of DLT Para 2 Red M390 knives for sale ahead of the re-release of that knife.


Wait, the para 2 at DLT is being released again? I thought it was just the manix 2?

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Re: St. Nick's 4v pm2!

Postby CXXX » Fri May 15, 2020 5:21 pm

AwayFromMySpydieHole wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 5:18 pm
CXXX wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 5:12 pm
grg wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 4:36 pm
CXXX wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 6:44 pm
Just counted 67 of these on the auction site that are for sale or sold...
the price is coming down from when they were first on ebay.I guess most people that want one bad have got one.
True, I have tracked 74 that have sold with an average sold price of $286.88, lowest price sold was today (6/15/2020) $232.50. There are 28 for sale.
So 102 knives being flipped out of the total sold.

Interesting a lot of DLT Para 2 Red M390 knives for sale ahead of the re-release of that knife.


Wait, the para 2 at DLT is being released again? I thought it was just the manix
My mistake you are correct Manix 2 M390 I will edit!

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Re: St. Nick's 4v pm2!

Postby AwayFromMySpydieHole » Fri May 15, 2020 5:27 pm

CXXX wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 5:21 pm
AwayFromMySpydieHole wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 5:18 pm
CXXX wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 5:12 pm
grg wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 4:36 pm

the price is coming down from when they were first on ebay.I guess most people that want one bad have got one.
True, I have tracked 74 that have sold with an average sold price of $286.88, lowest price sold was today (6/15/2020) $232.50. There are 28 for sale.
So 102 knives being flipped out of the total sold.

Interesting a lot of DLT Para 2 Red M390 knives for sale ahead of the re-release of that knife.


Wait, the para 2 at DLT is being released again? I thought it was just the manix
My mistake you are correct Manix 2 M390 I will edit!


Oh man I got excited! Haha

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Re: St. Nick's 4v pm2!

Postby bdblue » Fri May 15, 2020 7:07 pm

CXXX wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 5:12 pm
So 102 knives being flipped out of the total sold.
That's a lot of knives but a relatively low percentage out of the 1000+ that were sold. If the retailer had allowed each purchaser to buy 2 knives instead of 1, there would probably have been 204 knives going through auctions. If those 102 scalpers had not bought those knives, that's another 102 enthusiasts that could have gotten the knives.

There were a good number of these scalped on other online forums too.

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Re: St. Nick's 4v pm2!

Postby SubMicron » Sat May 16, 2020 12:04 pm

bdblue wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 7:07 pm
CXXX wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 5:12 pm
So 102 knives being flipped out of the total sold.
That's a lot of knives but a relatively low percentage out of the 1000+ that were sold. If the retailer had allowed each purchaser to buy 2 knives instead of 1, there would probably have been 204 knives going through auctions. If those 102 scalpers had not bought those knives, that's another 102 enthusiasts that could have gotten the knives.

There were a good number of these scalped on other online forums too.
The good news is that they're all driving down each other's prices. It's simple supply and demand.

Considering what else is on the market brand new between $300 and $500 dollars, and what you typically get for blade steel with them, a PM2 in CPM-4V at these prices is still an extraordinary value.

It wont be long before all of those are sold through and then the prices will start climbing.

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Re: St. Nick's 4v pm2!

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Re: St. Nick's 4v pm2!

Postby bdblue » Sat May 16, 2020 7:14 pm

SubMicron wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 12:04 pm
It wont be long before all of those are sold through and then the prices will start climbing.
The prices will go up and stay high for awhile, until someone brings out new models in better steels. There was similar fury when the M390 and 204 models came out, now years later those are old hat and 4V is the new star.

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Re: St. Nick's 4v pm2!

Postby SubMicron » Sat May 16, 2020 8:39 pm

bdblue wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 7:14 pm
SubMicron wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 12:04 pm
It wont be long before all of those are sold through and then the prices will start climbing.
The prices will go up and stay high for awhile, until someone brings out new models in better steels. There was similar fury when the M390 and 204 models came out, now years later those are old hat and 4V is the new star.
Agreed but I'm not sure what might come down the pipe anytime soon in the niche that 4V sits. It seems to supplant CPM-M4.

M4 isnt the toughest steel, but of the tough steels it has had the best edge retention. M4 appears to have slightly more wear resistance than CPM-4V, but 4V is harder and stronger at the apex. Edge retention differences will come down to what media is being cut, but 4V I'd think would just generally hold up better in use.

On the edge retention front, there's a list of steels that we can hope to see, but I'm not aware of any specific steel with better edge retention that's as tough.

We might be debating the differences between M4, 4V, and REX-45 for awhile.

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Re: St. Nick's 4v pm2!

Postby TkoK83Spy » Sun May 17, 2020 5:56 am

I've experienced a bit better wear resistance/edge retention on both my 4V Manix and Shaman than on my M4 knives I have/had (Para 3 and GB2) I totally agree how quickly M4 sharpens though. Still a top steel in my eyes, even with all the new fancy stuff that's been coming out the past few years.

I can't comment on sharpening 4V yet because both knives after a week of warehouse duties followed by intentionally trying to dull the blade bit, still won the fight and only "needed" a couple swipes on the fine rods and a couple passes on the strop. No sharpening needed yet :cool:
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Re: St. Nick's 4v pm2!

Postby JMM » Sun May 17, 2020 1:07 pm

SubMicron wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 8:39 pm
bdblue wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 7:14 pm
SubMicron wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 12:04 pm
It wont be long before all of those are sold through and then the prices will start climbing.
The prices will go up and stay high for awhile, until someone brings out new models in better steels. There was similar fury when the M390 and 204 models came out, now years later those are old hat and 4V is the new star.
Agreed but I'm not sure what might come down the pipe anytime soon in the niche that 4V sits. It seems to supplant CPM-M4.

M4 isnt the toughest steel, but of the tough steels it has had the best edge retention. M4 appears to have slightly more wear resistance than CPM-4V, but 4V is harder and stronger at the apex. Edge retention differences will come down to what media is being cut, but 4V I'd think would just generally hold up better in use.

On the edge retention front, there's a list of steels that we can hope to see, but I'm not aware of any specific steel with better edge retention that's as tough.

We might be debating the differences between M4, 4V, and REX-45 for awhile.
In my experience & testing, both 4V and Rex45 have better edge retention and better toughness than M4.

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Re: St. Nick's 4v pm2!

Postby bdblue » Sun May 17, 2020 7:24 pm

SubMicron wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 8:39 pm
Agreed but I'm not sure what might come down the pipe anytime soon in the niche that 4V sits. It seems to supplant CPM-M4.
I agree, it might take awhile. I remember the excitement generated by M390 and 204. Then Spyderco released production models in S110V.

I don't know why there was such excitement for 4V, and wonder if it was the steel or the color combination. I don't doubt that it is a good steel but I don't recall that much interest in M4. Now we have others out there- Rex45, K390, Rex121, others that I don't know of. I'd like to see more models in these steels. I think at some point there will be more models in all of these steels to satisfy the demand but I don't know when that will be.

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Re: St. Nick's 4v pm2!

Postby JuPaul » Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:29 am

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Re: St. Nick's 4v pm2!

Postby attila » Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:31 am

JuPaul wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:29 am
https://www.stnicksknives.com/products/ ... c81gprdbk2

Back in stock! Going fast...
Did they raise the price?
Own: Delica, yOld S30V Native, pointy Breeden Rescue, Delica, HAP40 Endura, ZDP DF2, S110V Manix LW,Pakka Delica, Cru-wear Para 3, SE H1 DF2, M4 Manix, HAP40 Caly 3, S90V Native 5, K390 Urban, Pakka DF2, Cruwear PM2, SE Pac Salt, HAP40 Jazzlica, S110V Native, P.I.T.S., DLC Manix, REX 45 PM2, Para 3, XHP Manix LW, SB Caly 3, 20CV PM2, Rhino, SB Calypso Jr., B70P, PMA11, K03, ZDP Stretch 2, Kapara, REX 45 Military, 154CM Manix LW, 204p PM2, Swick, SG Delica, BL Lil'Native, AEB-L Urban, HAP40 Stretch, KC Cruwear Manix,Cruwear Military, M390 PM2, Cruwear Delica, 4V Lil'Native, Mantra 2, CruCarta Shaman, M390 Para 3 LW, M390 Manix, K390 Police 4, RexWood Shaman, DLC Cruwear Shaman, Rex 45 Manix, Native 5, Native LW, 204p Para 3, S45VN PM2, S90V Manix LW, 20CV Manix, Rex 45 Lil’Native, Shaman, C208GP, Cruwear Manix

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Re: St. Nick's 4v pm2!

Postby DTPrime » Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:33 am

attila wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:31 am
Did they raise the price?
Nope was $175 before as well

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Re: St. Nick's 4v pm2!

Postby attila » Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:40 am

It’s lunchtime for the kiddos, so I wasn’t able to check out fast enough with my attention divided. :rolleyes:
DTPrime wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:33 am
attila wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:31 am
Did they raise the price?
Nope was $175 before as well
Thanks
Own: Delica, yOld S30V Native, pointy Breeden Rescue, Delica, HAP40 Endura, ZDP DF2, S110V Manix LW,Pakka Delica, Cru-wear Para 3, SE H1 DF2, M4 Manix, HAP40 Caly 3, S90V Native 5, K390 Urban, Pakka DF2, Cruwear PM2, SE Pac Salt, HAP40 Jazzlica, S110V Native, P.I.T.S., DLC Manix, REX 45 PM2, Para 3, XHP Manix LW, SB Caly 3, 20CV PM2, Rhino, SB Calypso Jr., B70P, PMA11, K03, ZDP Stretch 2, Kapara, REX 45 Military, 154CM Manix LW, 204p PM2, Swick, SG Delica, BL Lil'Native, AEB-L Urban, HAP40 Stretch, KC Cruwear Manix,Cruwear Military, M390 PM2, Cruwear Delica, 4V Lil'Native, Mantra 2, CruCarta Shaman, M390 Para 3 LW, M390 Manix, K390 Police 4, RexWood Shaman, DLC Cruwear Shaman, Rex 45 Manix, Native 5, Native LW, 204p Para 3, S45VN PM2, S90V Manix LW, 20CV Manix, Rex 45 Lil’Native, Shaman, C208GP, Cruwear Manix

Waiting for: SPY27, K490, Swick 5, and something purple
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Re: St. Nick's 4v pm2!

Postby Spydergirl88 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:43 am

That went fast!


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