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Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby Doeswhateveraspidercan » Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:31 am

I have tried to warm up to the Manix2 for a long time now and with the recent acquisition of Maxamet in Both a PM2 and a Native 5 LW I am feeling the Spyderco bite hard to go after the Manix 2 in this steel due to the way Maxamet performs.

I also love the stone wash finish Spyderco is giving Maxamet.

Yesterday I really abused the Native 5 in Maxamet. I was literally carving 3/4 inch ply wood with it and the blade handled everything perfectly even some twisting in the plywood.

No damage at all to the blade then took down a bunch of cardboard.

Love the blade shape but was thinking for bigger stuff the Manix might be better.

So anyway I have never owned a LW Manix and am wondering how the ergonomics are I mean I am certain it dropped some weight but for some reason I am thinking the FRN will offer a better over all experience?

What do those of you who have used both think when comparing the G-10 models to the FRN?

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Re: Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby Wartstein » Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:48 am

Doeswhatever,

I only owned a LW Manix, never a G10.

But just fyi: The Manix 2 LW handle is made from FRCP, not FRN. Not a huge, but for me noticeable difference: FRCP somehow feels harder, more plasticy, more prone to being brittle (FEELS like that, don´t know if it is the case!) compared to FRN

And other than it is the case with some Spydies that come both in G10 and FRN: The FRCP handle of the Manix LW is not more countoured than the Manix G10 handle (differently to for example Para 3 LW and Para 3 G10 handles)

That being said: I absolutely loved the ergos of my Manix 2 LW!! And it felt, while being light, very sturdy, not only for a linerless model.

And I think the G10 Manix has a lot more jimping all over the handle than the LW, some people don´t like that seemingly (I can´t tell, never had a G10 Manix as said)
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Re: Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby Doeswhateveraspidercan » Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:11 pm

Wartstein wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:48 am
Doeswhatever,

I only owned a LW Manix, never a G10.

But just fyi: The Manix 2 LW handle is made from FRCP, not FRN. Not a huge, but for me noticeable difference: FRCP somehow feels harder, more plasticy, more prone to being brittle (FEELS like that, don´t know if it is the case!) compared to FRN

And other than it is the case with some Spydies that come both in G10 and FRN: The FRCP handle of the Manix LW is not more countoured than the Manix G10 handle (differently to for example Para 3 LW and Para 3 G10 handles)

That being said: I absolutely loved the ergos of my Manix 2 LW!! And it felt, while being light, very sturdy, not only for a linerless model.

And I think the G10 Manix has a lot more jimping all over the handle than the LW, some people don´t like that seemingly (I can´t tell, never had a G10 Manix as said)
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Re: Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby TkoK83Spy » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:51 pm

I had the LW in BD1 and used it as a camping knife for a year. I ended up gifting it to my brother in law after acquiring a few G10 models. I STRONGLY prefer G10 to FRN/FRCP on all models. I honestly don't even look at frn models anymore. (Just realized only 2 of my 20 Spyderco's are frn)

The Manix with liners and G10 is a pretty stout knife. It's got a little weight to it I guess over the LW models, but I've never understood the crying about a couple ounces of weight in a pocket knife anyways. As a user, I feel much more confident using my G10 Manix's than I did with the LW (not that it ever worried me, but just in comparison of having both models)
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Re: Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby Mattysc42 » Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:07 pm

I prefer the lw because I prefer closed back construction, and the lw has fewer hotspots in my hand. The lighter weight is nice as well. I don’t mind the pinned construction because I never disassemble my knives.
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Re: Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby Wartstein » Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:09 pm

TkoK83Spy wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:51 pm
I had the LW in BD1 and used it as a camping knife for a year. I ended up gifting it to my brother in law after acquiring a few G10 models. I STRONGLY prefer G10 to FRN/FRCP on all models. I honestly don't even look at frn models anymore. (Just realized only 2 of my 20 Spyderco's are frn)

The Manix with liners and G10 is a pretty stout knife. It's got a little weight to it I guess over the LW models, but I've never understood the crying about a couple ounces of weight in a pocket knife anyways. As a user, I feel much more confident using my G10 Manix's than I did with the LW (not that it ever worried me, but just in comparison of having both models)
I think I´d really like the G10 Manix too (just had the LW). Judging for example from Endura to Pac Salt, I prefer the relatively "heavier" handle (and lighter blade) and the resulting balance and feel of the former over the latter.

And most times a couple ounces more in fact don´t matter on a pocket knife, with imho two exceptions/scenarios:

- "Floppy" pockets made of very light garment
- Really demanding mountaineering or trecking where one actually has to count ounces (but even in 95% of mountaineering that is not a real issue)
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Re: Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby Evil D » Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:15 pm

I really wish they'd redo the scales with a softer shoulder around the edges, it really needs more bevel. I did some extended work with the S110V LW and even with gloves on I got major hot spots and a couple blisters.

https://forum.spyderco.com/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p1040847


Strength wise I think it's plenty strong enough for reasonable use. I did a good amount of hard cuts in that thread but I tried to avoid any serious twisting. The handle is strong enough but there's no denying that it isn't as strong as the G10 version.

Ultimately I sacrificed my S110V LW for a blade swap and then a month later they announced the blurple production S110V. I would go with the LW for backpacking/hiking but stick with the G10 if weight isn't an issue.

Plus I couldn't mod the LW the way I wanted..
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Re: Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby ladybug93 » Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:27 pm

i have a lw and have handled the g10. i love both. i think the lw manix 2 is probably the best pocket knife ever made, minis the inability to take it apart. personally, i’d never buy a steel that is prone to rust in the lw version because you can’t take it apart to clean it. i even had a small amount of rust develop on my xhp version, but i was able to wipe it off with q-tips through the cbbl opening. if spyderco would make the knife with screws, it would be perfect. i still want a g10 version though. i’d feel slightly more confident with it, although i’ve never had an issue with the frcp.

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Re: Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby Doeswhateveraspidercan » Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:51 pm

Interesting feedback, I wonder if the blade on a Maxamet light weight model could be used in a G-10 Handle?

Am I correct the PM2 and Para3 are the only G10 Maxamet knives by Spyderco?

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Re: Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby Wartstein » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:30 pm

Doeswhateveraspidercan wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:51 pm
Interesting feedback, I wonder if the blade on a Maxamet light weight model could be used in a G-10 Handle?

Am I correct the PM2 and Para3 are the only G10 Maxamet knives by Spyderco?

https://forum.spyderco.com/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p1350507 :)

EDIT: ! Read the whole thread I linked! I just right now realized that someone posted there, that a blade swap from Manix LW to Manix G10 could end with a "late" lock up (or not locking up at all)!! :eek:
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Re: Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby Sharp Guy » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:16 am

I have Manix 2s in both G10 & LW models. I think the G10 knives are nicer overall but I actually carry the LWs more. The M2 LW is the knife I grab when I'm going on a bike ride or walk with sweat pants or athletic shorts on. I usually carry it IWB and the weight along with the wire clip seem to work better for me in that role.

Since the Maxamet M2 is only available in a LW I say go for it. It's the only good way to see if that version is for you. As for FRN vs FRCP, some people make a big deal out of it but it's a non issue for me. Yeah FRCP has a smoother feel to it (likely due to the finish of the molds more than anything) but I've had no issues with it in use. I've used my M2 LWs for extended periods of time and didn't feel any hot spots etc. I think a lot of that just depends on your individual hands. It may not work well for someone else's hand but your experience might be completely different.
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Re: Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby JuPaul » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:08 am

I had the brown xhp lw model, and I really tried to warm up to it, but in the end I always reached for a g10 model instead so I sold it. The frcp just felt slippery to me, and made it harder for me to disengage the lock. Someone with bigger or stronger hands might feel differently, though. I've thought about giving it another shot with this rex45 sprint...we'll see. I just don't especially care about the weight difference since none of my lightweight shorts will fit a manix anyhow. I've got a native lw or delicas/dragonflies for that.
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Re: Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby Doc Dan » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:40 am

The Manix 2 Lightweight is my favorite knife in this size range. I don’t care fir the Para 2. I don’t hate it and don’t love it. But the M2 LW and I have a real love affair. It is a big knife you can carry all day. Plus it fits my hand like it was molded around my hand.
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Re: Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby prndltech » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:49 am

Get both! (1 of each in different steels) I have both, use both, love both. A LW in BD1N, and a g10 DLC M390. If I’m in jeans I’ll tote the g10, if I’m in lighter clothes I’ll tote the LW. So for me it just depends on what I’m wearing, if I’m at home and need a knife and ones not in my pocket I’d reach for whichever is closer to me and wouldn’t think twice about it. Love me some manix.
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Re: Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby Doeswhateveraspidercan » Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:07 am

Watching thread closely, I have a smooth scale manix in Cruwear not a fan of smooth scales. Purchased for model and steel.

I am very surprised Spyderco did not put Maxamet in a G-10 Manix2.

Any plans to do this Sal?

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Re: Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby JuPaul » Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:12 am

Doeswhateveraspidercan wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:07 am
Watching thread closely, I have a smooth scale manix in Cruwear not a fan of smooth scales. Purchased for model and steel.

I am very surprised Spyderco did not put Maxamet in a G-10 Manix2.

Any plans to do this Sal?
My guess is maxamet in the g10 would make the model too expensive for the price range spyderco wants to hit. In the lw it's a $100+ price increase over the base model.
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Re: Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby TomAiello » Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:35 am

You can do a blade swap if you want. Honestly, though, I love the "stealth sportscar" feel of the Manix LW. It's like driving a Mini Cooper with 300 horsepower.

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Re: Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby Doeswhateveraspidercan » Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:22 am

TomAiello wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:35 am
You can do a blade swap if you want. Honestly, though, I love the "stealth sportscar" feel of the Manix LW. It's like driving a Mini Cooper with 300 horsepower.
Not at the cost of creating a late lock up, a few posts up from here Wartstein addresses that, otherwise I was going in that direction for sure.

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Re: Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby Doeswhateveraspidercan » Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:23 am

Evil D wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:15 pm
I really wish they'd redo the scales with a softer shoulder around the edges, it really needs more bevel. I did some extended work with the S110V LW and even with gloves on I got major hot spots and a couple blisters.

viewtopic.php?p=1040847#p1040847


Strength wise I think it's plenty strong enough for reasonable use. I did a good amount of hard cuts in that thread but I tried to avoid any serious twisting. The handle is strong enough but there's no denying that it isn't as strong as the G10 version.

Ultimately I sacrificed my S110V LW for a blade swap and then a month later they announced the blurple production S110V. I would go with the LW for backpacking/hiking but stick with the G10 if weight isn't an issue.

Plus I couldn't mod the LW the way I wanted..
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Re: Manix2 LW compared to G10?

Postby ladybug93 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:24 pm

Evil D wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:15 pm

Plus I couldn't mod the LW the way I wanted..
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