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Intro to tool steel?

Postby GarageBoy » Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:30 am

If someone were to get their toes wet with a tool steel, which one would you recommend (on the easier to get side, so no crucarta shamen :D )?

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Re: Intro to tool steel?

Postby Accutronman » Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:35 am

PM2 52100

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Re: Intro to tool steel?

Postby Pancake » Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:49 am

I would say wait for REX 45 sprint run. Lots of models (Native, Lil Native, Para 3 LW, Chief, Shaman, Manixes), handle colour could be a bit polarising, but that could be modified.
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Re: Intro to tool steel?

Postby Spydergirl88 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:57 am

K390 PM2 or Para 3
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Re: Intro to tool steel?

Postby Albatross » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:21 pm

The upcoming Seki line of K390 will be the best way to get into non-stainless steels. Most of them will be less expensive than any other model/non-stainless steel combo and will be a part of the regular lineup, so no worries as far as acquiring one.
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Re: Intro to tool steel?

Postby VooDooChild » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:27 pm

I still want more cpm cruwear.

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Re: Intro to tool steel?

Postby Sharp Guy » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:42 pm

I would start with Cruwear if possible. Lots of other great choice to as already indicated
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Re: Intro to tool steel?

Postby abbazaba » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:47 pm

M4 is how I got my feet wet, and the first steel I truly enjoyed. K390, REX45, and M4 are some of my favorites because they perform at a very high level. If sharpening intimidates you, 52100 or Cruwear is easier to get sharp, but won't hold an edge nearly as long IME.

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Re: Intro to tool steel?

Postby JuPaul » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:55 pm

Hap40 can also still be found at reasonable prices if you like Seki models. Great intro non-stainless if you want something that sharpens easily but beautifully.
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Re: Intro to tool steel?

Postby Xplorer » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:14 pm

There's soooo many good choices in tool steels. I suggest Cruwear would be an ideal first tool steel to try. It has the great tool steel edge characteristics one would want to experience and it is quite a bit more corrosion resistant than many of the other great options. Another good starting point IMO would be simple 52100 (bearing steel). 52100 requires more corrosion attention than Cruwear but it has very good edge characteristics and is easy for most people to sharpen to a very crisp edge.

**edit** I agree with the previous post that Hap40 would be a great starting choice as well. :)
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Re: Intro to tool steel?

Postby TkoK83Spy » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:26 pm

Fradon lock Delica in Hap40 for the price it's at right now is a great choice! Some of the other steels are harder to find at the moment, or on more expensive knives.
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Re: Intro to tool steel?

Postby JonLeBlanc » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:38 pm

52100 is swell, M4 and K390 are cool too.
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Re: Intro to tool steel?

Postby Evil D » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:40 pm

What exactly is it about tool steel that you're interested in? I ask because there are just about as many different steels with different performance as there are in stainless steels, many of which have similar stainless steel equivalents apartment from just being non stainless (52100 vs AEB-L for example).

The cheapest way might be to get an Izula or BK14 and play with those and see how you like them, unless you want to play around with patinas since those are coated blades.
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Re: Intro to tool steel?

Postby jdw » Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:19 pm

I would suggest 52100 anything. It's one of my primary steels that I use and it's really easy to sharpen. I know because I have very poor sharpening skills and I can get it screaming sharp. If you are looking for edge retention then I would suggest M4 but only because that's a personal bias towards the GB1. There is quite a bit of K390 out there and REX45 is on the horizon though. Good luck with your quest.
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Re: Intro to tool steel?

Postby GarageBoy » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:58 pm

Thanks - I mainly want to experience the "aggressive" edge some members have noted - my sharpening skills aren't the greatest, but I'm excited to try them

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Re: Intro to tool steel?

Postby The Meat man » Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:06 pm

CPM M4 would be a great choice to start with.
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Re: Intro to tool steel?

Postby TkoK83Spy » Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:21 pm

GarageBoy wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:58 pm
Thanks - I mainly want to experience the "aggressive" edge some members have noted - my sharpening skills aren't the greatest, but I'm excited to try them
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Re: Intro to tool steel?

Postby Doeswhateveraspidercan » Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:36 pm

Go cruwear and don't look back. Might still be able to get a cruwear delica.

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Re: Intro to tool steel?

Postby koenigsegg » Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:37 pm

Can get the superblue caly jr for $100 on the forums lately. The Hap40 Delica would be a good choice. Manix 2 Rex 45 just came out at SFO earlier today so should be in dealers this week or next. The upcoming K390 delica and endura would be a good start as well if you waited. You might be able to pickup a Mantra 2 second hand it has M4 steel.
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Re: Intro to tool steel?

Postby Bloke » Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:41 pm

Have no Spyderco Cruwear so another vote for HAP40.
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