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KOT : What say your State's "Public Safety Laws"?

Postby AllenETreat » Sat Jun 21, 2003 12:00 am

What does YOUR State's Public Safety Dept.

( who(m) usually issue Pistol Permits & write the by-laws regarding "dangerous weapons" ) say regards the "common pocketknife"?



Connecticut : The cutting length must be

under 4", no double edge(s), stilettoes or

switchblades ( Oh, they're "legal" in that purgatory called Florida <img src="sad.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> even though they

run afoul of the Federal Switchblade Act! )



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What say the augurers?



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Postby jaxon » Sat Jun 21, 2003 9:32 am

Don't know the law. Don't care. I carry any Spydie I like. Anyway, anytimE, anyplace I like. I also carry my Buck sheath knives on the 'mottorcicle' with no problem..........so far.

fix spelling..........

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Postby Sword and Shield » Sat Jun 21, 2003 11:53 am

Ohio seems to focus entirely on intent and purpose. For example, since there are no length restrictions, I can carry anything I can justify. Of course, what I can carry is inherently limited by location.

I can justify a SAK at a football game, as I work the concessions. I couldn't justify the Endura, as it is too large for the job.

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Postby Jimd » Sat Jun 21, 2003 3:04 pm

What does YOUR State's Public Safety Dept.
( who(m) usually issue Pistol Permits & write the by-laws regarding "dangerous weapons" ) say regards the "common pocketknife"?>>>

In PA, we can carry anything so long as it's not an automatic (switchblade). There is not limit on blade length.

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Postby J Smith » Sat Jun 21, 2003 6:00 pm

Here its ok as long as it is not over 4 in.Butterflies are legel but autos are not.I did have a policeman tell me that you could legally carry any blade if you have a knife colectors club card on you and you were a member of the club.

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Postby spidernoiree » Sun Jun 22, 2003 12:55 pm

The last time I looked at Michigan's knife law it said nothing concerning blade length. Although automatics and spring assisted knives are illegal. Usually I carry either my PE Ti-Salsa, PE reverse "S" Meerkat or my PE SS Cricket.

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Postby glockman99 » Sun Jun 22, 2003 4:28 pm

Here in Washington state as a whole, there is no length law for blades, although some cities/counties have enacted some pretty repressive blade-length laws...Seattle and Tacoma, for example, limit blades to 3 inches or under, where here in Aberdeen, (and all of Grays Harbor county), I can carry ANY length pocketknife, as long as I'm not being a menace with it.

We are not allowed to carry "switchblades", dirks or daggers, or "butterfly" knives, etc...BUT we are able to carry a fully-loaded handgun (with a CCW permit.).

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Postby CKE » Sun Jun 22, 2003 5:58 pm

Not concealed thats it. Oh and it must not have the intended/carried purpose to be used solely as a weapon.
Our gun laws suck but our knife laws are very good. Any blade, any length...sweet!

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Postby Knife Knut » Sun Jun 22, 2003 7:57 pm

It is not always the state laws that you have to be careful of, but also the local municipal laws.
It is a good idea to have your state and local laws with you as many officers are ignorant of the law; or if you get a dishonest officer he may try to take your knife for himself at which point you can press charges. If you do happen to have your knife confiscated, the officer must give you a reciept for it as a part of due process. This way you can get it back if the officer is in error.

I need to look up the Attorney General's opinions on the State Law.
I am still compiling my list of State/local statutes:

<h2>South Carolina State Law:</h2>
<p class=MsoBodyText><b>SECTION 16-23-405.</b> Definition of “weapon”;
confiscation and disposition of weapons used in commission or in furtherance of
crime. </p>
<p class=MsoList>(1)   Except for the provisions relating to rifles and
shotguns in Section 16-23-460, as used in this chapter, ‘weapon’ means firearm
(rifle, shotgun, pistol, or similar device that propels a projectile through
the energy of an explosive), a knife with a blade over two inches long, a
blackjack, a metal pipe or pole, or any other type of device or object which
may be used to inflict bodily injury or death. </p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b>&nbsp;</b></p>
<p class=MsoBodyText><b>SECTION 16-23-460.</b> Carrying concealed weapons;
forfeiture of weapons. </p>
<p class=MsoBodyText>Any person carrying a deadly weapon usually used for the
infliction of personal injury concealed about his person is guilty of a misdemeanor,
must forfeit to the county, or, if convicted in a municipal court, to the
municipality the concealed weapon, and must be fined not less than two hundred
dollars nor more than five hundred dollars or imprisoned not less than thirty
days nor more than ninety days. Nothing herein contained may be construed to
apply to (1) persons carrying concealed weapons upon their own premises or
pursuant to and in compliance with Article 4 of Chapter 31 of Title 23, or (2)
peace officers in the actual discharge of their duties. <b><i>The provisions of
this section do not apply to rifles, shotguns, dirks, slingshots, metal
knuckles, or razors unless they are used with the intent to commit a crime or
in furtherance of a crime. </i></b></p>
<h2>Charleston</h2>
<p class=MsoBodyText><b>Sec. 21-215. Carrying concealed ice pick or knife with
blade exceeding three inches in length. </b></p>
<p class=MsoBodyText>It shall be unlawful for any person to carry<b> <i>concealed</i>
</b>about his person any ice pick, razor, knife, dagger or stiletto, the blade
of which exceeds three (3) inches in length.</p>
<h2>North Charleston</h2>
<p class=MsoBodyText><b>Sec. 13-151. Not to be carried concealed on person.</b></p>
<p class=MsoBodyText>It shall be unlawful for any person to carry <b><i>concealed</i></b>,
upon his person, within the city, except on his own premises, any firearm,
razor, knuckles, dirk, slingshot, or any other weapon or instrument commonly
used for the infliction of personal injury; provided, that this section shall
not apply to law enforcement officers in the discharge of their duties as such
officers.

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Postby dynaryder » Mon Jun 23, 2003 12:31 am

VA says nothing over 3" on school property,no daggers/dirks/double edges,bowie knives,switchblades,ballistic knives or razors.

Soooo,if I carry a Cold Steel folder w/a 6" bowie blade,is it legal cause it's a folder or illegal cause the blade's bowie style?

OBfunny: being military,I can get a concealed carry permit,no prob. But,I can't actually buy a gun because I don't have 2 pieces of photo ID(drivers license has no pic).

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Postby Big-Target » Mon Jun 23, 2003 6:05 am

The "policy"in NJ is that if a police officer has a "hard on" for you, you could carry a <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>ladybug, and that cop will use it as an excuse to make you life miserable.

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Postby Zrexxer » Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:13 am

Texas:

(6) "Illegal knife" means a:
(A) knife with a blade over five and one-half inches;
(B) hand instrument designed to cut or stab another by being thrown;
(C) dagger, including but not limited to a dirk, stilletto, and poniard;
(D) bowie knife;
(E) sword; or
(F) spear.

I find it ironic that the state most associated with Bowie knives expressly prohibits them.

And I agree with Big Target that the law is often interpreted differently in the field depending on whether an LEO wants to jack you up or needs probable cause for a search.

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Postby AllenETreat » Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:20 pm

Gang :

VERY INFORMATIVE!!!!!!!!!

glockman*niner-niner* :

Gotta agree with ya' there ; there's "Cold
steel", and "hot lead"!!!! <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

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Postby ftkinney » Tue Jun 24, 2003 9:27 am

Big-Target is right I live in NJ and have not had a problem yet but hvae heard many reliable stories aboout police "in"discresion.


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