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Re: SHOT Show 2020 Videos and other info concerning new models

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Jazz wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:09 pm
What is a tanto good for? Serious question. Looks really cool. Interested in the Pacific 2. Guess we’ll never know Vivi’s option of it.
Well, I think he still prefers the Pac Salt 1, for the only thing that seemingly has changed is the handle from E3 to E4 shape... totally the opposite with me, for me that makes the Pac Sal even better.
Now imagine a linerless Endura 4 in serrated ffg... :rolleyes:
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Re: SHOT Show 2020 Videos and other info concerning new models

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Here's another one...and Eric gets bit by the Siren. :eek:

https://youtu.be/8ixjnk5nX88
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Re: SHOT Show 2020 Videos and other info concerning new models

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TkoK83Spy wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:52 pm
I think everyone's all juiced up on the tanto because it's something totally different from Spyderco. In actual use, it's not very useful. You really have to crank your wrist in uncomfortable way to utilize the tip to penetrate something , say cutting from above and pulling back. Just a different design. Amazing how easy it is to sucker some people in!

I never liked Tantos and never had one, but still I think you´re clearly missing something here:

1.) Long totally straight ("wharnie-like") section in the edge as opposed to the contionous curve in the regular PM2: This is what the Stretch has also, and for me it works better when cutting

2. Stronger tip: For me the regular PM2 never was an overly "harmonic" design, by having that really thick, overbuilt, "hard use" blade stock, but still a fragile tip you have to worry about when working fast and, well, in "hard use" scenarions

3.) Hollow grind: Not necessarely a plus of course (in fact I prefer ffg), but still a new option for the PM2 with certain great properties, if you want those.

So, conclusion: Don´t think people are "easily suckered in", but rather consider this different approach to the PM2 with its pros and cons and than like it or not.. ;)
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Re: SHOT Show 2020 Videos and other info concerning new models

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Jazz wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:09 pm
What is a tanto good for? Serious question. Looks really cool. Interested in the Pacific 2. Guess we’ll never know Vivi’s option of it.
I carried a tanto for almost 10 years and I never found it underperforming.
From military service to plain old hard blue collar work, my tanto never left me longing for a different blade shape. They’re tough as **** and can do things like prying, opening paint cans, using as a screwdriver, etc that I wouldn’t dream of trying with a standard leaf shape ffg.
(They actually work surprisingly well for skinning too. I dressed a goat in Afghanistan with one and the front flat blade angle was mint up in the cavity separating the diaphragm from rib cage, and the secondary point worked great for cutting the esophagus/ windpipe).

It wasn’t until I got on knife forums & social media that I saw Internet knife bros saying they aren’t good for edc tasks, only good for stabbing, etc. :rolleyes:
Don’t you believe it.
If you’re one of those guys who wants the thinnest blade possible and your main daily task is cutting open amazon boxes, then yeah, a thin ffg will work better (or better yet, just get a box cutter).
But for daily tasks and hard use, they’re great ime.

*Also worth noting is different makers make the blades in different variations, and most aren’t awesome. Some make chisel grind, most make the blades too thick, or too thick of a spine, etc. I’d venture that’s why some folks have had less than stellar performance.

But from what Eric talked about on this new design, I imagine it’s gonna cut like a demon.
He talked about it having a hollow grind on the belly and being thin bte(awesome!), a specific flat grind up front with a well thought out spine & a unique swedge. They’ve clearly put a lot of thought into this, and I think folks are gonna be pleasantly surprised with its performance.

And yes, it should be plenty stabby as well :D
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Anyone else notice the quality of the ‘snap’ on that Siren when opened?

Music to my ears :D
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Tims wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:52 am
Anyone else notice the quality of the ‘snap’ on that Siren when opened?

Music to my ears :D
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bbturbodad wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:45 am
Here's another one...and Eric gets bit by the Siren. :eek:

https://youtu.be/8ixjnk5nX88

Well, and that despite he´d know (and even performs) all the other backlock one handed closing methods, where he´d never get cut... ;)

AND after stating (quoting Eric): "If you´re looking for a knife that´s gonna perform when you need it, a backlock is tough to beat" - very true!
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Re: SHOT Show 2020 Videos and other info concerning new models

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Jazz wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:09 pm
What is a tanto good for? Serious question.
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I might be the only one, but, the tanto doesn’t do anything for me. Honestly, I think it ruins the lines of the PM2. If it had a more chiseled handle maybe it would appeal more, but I feel it’s trying to be something it’s not. On a different note, being a BHQ exclusive solidifies my choice not to get one because I won’t do business with them anymore.
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Man, super pumped for how soon we may see that tanto PM2! I usually recommend the Shaman to folks who use (and sometimes abuse) their knives, as I know that the Shaman will take everything you throw at it.

But sometimes the Shaman doesn't fit well in a person's hands, and they need something smaller. I'd recommend the PM2, but its delicate tip makes it hard to recommend to a person who has snapped the tip off knives before. The tanto PM2 could potentially open up a whole new market segment!
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curlyhairedboy wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:07 am
Man, super pumped for how soon we may see that tanto PM2! I usually recommend the Shaman to folks who use (and sometimes abuse) their knives, as I know that the Shaman will take everything you throw at it.

But sometimes the Shaman doesn't fit well in a person's hands, and they need something smaller. I'd recommend the PM2, but its delicate tip makes it hard to recommend to a person who has snapped the tip off knives before. The tanto PM2 could potentially open up a whole new market segment!

Right, imho the stouter tip fits the rather thick PM2 bladestock well.
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Re: SHOT Show 2020 Videos and other info concerning new models

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Jazz wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:09 pm
What is a tanto good for? Serious question. Looks really cool. Interested in the Pacific 2. Guess we’ll never know Vivi’s option of it.


I'm probably the only guy here that isn't at all interested in this knife. Typically the point is thicker and tougher so they excel at hard penetration situations but it puts the tip way too high for my liking.
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Re: SHOT Show 2020 Videos and other info concerning new models

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The BladeHQ Exclusive PM2 Tanto is going to sell out in 5 minutes probably
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Spydergirl88 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:17 am
The BladeHQ Exclusive PM2 Tanto is going to sell out in 5 minutes probably

Exclusive?
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Re: SHOT Show 2020 Videos and other info concerning new models

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Liquid Cobra wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:24 am
Spydergirl88 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:17 am
The BladeHQ Exclusive PM2 Tanto is going to sell out in 5 minutes probably

Exclusive?

Unfortunately yes... Eric even shows it only in the BHQ vid, not in the KC vid (in THAT instead the sun and moon Chap...:))
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-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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Liquid Cobra wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:24 am
Spydergirl88 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:17 am
The BladeHQ Exclusive PM2 Tanto is going to sell out in 5 minutes probably

Exclusive?
BladeHQ announced it would be an exclusive during a live stream on instagram last night. :spyder:
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Spydergirl88 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:17 am
The BladeHQ Exclusive PM2 Tanto is going to sell out in 5 minutes probably
But wouldn't it be crazy to put all the work, time and effort in designing the Tanto Blade for just ONE run of Exclusives? I mean that's something different than "just" taking another steel or change the handle color on a regular PM2...

I think there are more Tanto PM2s to come...
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"Everything in the U.S. lineup will come in a rex 45 version at least for a sprint."

So we will get a rex 45 military?
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Making the tanto an exclusive would be a really big bummer for international folks like myself.
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VooDooChild wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:13 am
"Everything in the U.S. lineup will come in a rex 45 version at least for a sprint."

So we will get a rex 45 military?


I'm sure that was a bit of an exaggeration. I don't see them making a Rex45 Autonomy and it's made in Golden..
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