Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby foofie » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:33 am

Oogie wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:20 pm
Only word of cation I can think to share is for those folks that are passionately against styles where the finger choil extends into the comp lock cutout during closing, the Watu may not be your best choice.
Could someone post a picture of the Watu closed (focused on the comp lock cut-out)? I can only find some stock photos online - and they all look edited. Is the amount of choil in the cutout enough to bump off the finger and leave the blade a bit open?

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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby Spydergirl88 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:55 am

TomAiello wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:31 am
DSH007 wrote:
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Spydergirl88 wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:51 am
DSH007 wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:49 am
This is a really nice piece! Typical flawless Taichung F&F! Right off the bat, I'm very impressed with how comfortable the simple "stick" handle is.. my initial overall impressions of this knife are quite favorable!

Cool flight tag where did you get it? SFO?
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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby PStone » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:02 pm

foofie wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:33 am
Oogie wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:20 pm
Only word of cation I can think to share is for those folks that are passionately against styles where the finger choil extends into the comp lock cutout during closing, the Watu may not be your best choice.
Could someone post a picture of the Watu closed (focused on the comp lock cut-out)? I can only find some stock photos online - and they all look edited. Is the amount of choil in the cutout enough to bump off the finger and leave the blade a bit open?
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Yes, it will leave the blade a bit open if you fight to leave your finger on the tab. But my experience has been similar to the shaman. The bump of the choil hits my finger, but pushes it off at just the right time so that it just closes. I have been constantly fidgeting with this since yesterday morning and have had no problems whatsoever.

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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby TkoK83Spy » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:06 pm

I was just going to mention the same thing, that it seems similar to the "issue" with the Shaman. It just takes a little practice and before you know it, it's second nature to move your finger in time.

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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby Mm1313 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:38 pm

I wanted one badly, but that killed it for me when I saw the pics of the tab in the comp lock.

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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby Spydergirl88 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:53 pm

I have had a lil native comp lock with this "issue" for over 2 years and never had an issue...never been cut and always move my finger out of the way. And i have tiny fingers which in theory would be more susceptible to getting cut by the exposed 1 mm of edge. The ricasso and choil protect your finger anyway because they stick out more than the edge. I honestly don't understand the hate. Would love to see pictures of all the people out there that complain about this issue and their cut fingers... Oh wait. Exposed tips are an issue, not this.

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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby foofie » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:04 pm

PStone wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:02 pm
Yes, it will leave the blade a bit open if you fight to leave your finger on the tab. But my experience has been similar to the shaman. The bump of the choil hits my finger, but pushes it off at just the right time so that it just closes. I have been constantly fidgeting with this since yesterday morning and have had no problems whatsoever.
Thank you.
This is a non issue for me - but it sounds like some feel passionately about it.
One other thing to point out - when holding the knife to release the compression lock, your index finger nail is facing the choil/blade. If any part of your finger were to come in contact with the cutting edge (big IF), it would be the nail and not any skin.

edit - based on my experience with the ikuchi. Still waiting on my Watu.

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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby Hank Scorpio » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:44 pm

Got one inbound from DLT. Been looking forward to this one for a while. Glad to hear initial reports of free dropping action, even though it wouldn’t have been a deal breaker at all.
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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby buckleys » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:13 pm

Mm1313 wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:38 pm
I wanted one badly, but that killed it for me when I saw the pics of the tab in the comp lock.
This is also the reason I had to sell the Kapara, finger would get hit everytime, otherwise it would be the perfect knife for me. The Sage 5 also did this to a degree, but it could be avoided if I moved my finger forward a bit to avoid it. I wonder if this one has any space in front of or behind its "nub"?

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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby SpyderGrill » Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:56 pm

At first I thought this knife was ugly. I still do now, a liitle bit less than before. It is growing on me and I will probably end up with one.

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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby Wartstein » Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:07 pm

Molle Ninja wrote:
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TkoK83Spy wrote:
Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:45 pm
One of the great things about the compression lock is the ability to open the blade by pressing on the lock when the blade is facing down. Of course, that same thing goes for closing, too.

On the first Kaparas, while a lovely knife they didn’t have this attribute. Still a nice lock, but it loses two great functions of Sal’s lock.

So if I could pick, I’d want one with those extra two characteristics.

Perhaps I don´t fully get what you mean, but you can do that as easily with a CBBL too, and even with a backlock it is not problem at all (with the latter: Press the lockbar with your index finger and give the knife just a little wrist flick)
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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby Wartstein » Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:25 pm

PStone wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:02 pm
foofie wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:33 am
Oogie wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:20 pm
Only word of cation I can think to share is for those folks that are passionately against styles where the finger choil extends into the comp lock cutout during closing, the Watu may not be your best choice.
Could someone post a picture of the Watu closed (focused on the comp lock cut-out)? I can only find some stock photos online - and they all look edited. Is the amount of choil in the cutout enough to bump off the finger and leave the blade a bit open?
Yes, it will leave the blade a bit open if you fight to leave your finger on the tab. But my experience has been similar to the shaman. The bump of the choil hits my finger, but pushes it off at just the right time so that it just closes. I have been constantly fidgeting with this since yesterday morning and have had no problems whatsoever.

Sure I totally respect if someone just does not like the finger being "hit" when closing a comp. lock knife, but still I have to say: I personally don´t fully understand why.
I have quite a bit experience and use with the comp. lock,mainly with my PM2, where the finger does not "get hit", but when I could handle a Shaman twice, from the very beginning it was no issue at all for me that a bit of the choil extended into the comp. lock cutout when closing the knife.

That being said: I really like the Watus design, but I personally think a linerlock (like on the Chokwe) would suit it even a tad better than a comp. lock. I am not talking functionality here, but just about the overall "basic, simple" style of the knife, while the comp. lock is somehow a very sophisticated "modern" type of lock.
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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby PStone » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:33 pm

foofie wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:04 pm

Thank you.
This is a non issue for me - but it sounds like some feel passionately about it.
One other thing to point out - when holding the knife to release the compression lock, your index finger nail is facing the choil/blade. If any part of your finger were to come in contact with the cutting edge (big IF), it would be the nail and not any skin.

edit - based on my experience with the ikuchi. Still waiting on my Watu.

You’re welcome. If you would like any more angles or comparisons, I’d be happy to post some.

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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby PStone » Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:41 pm

Wartstein wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:25 pm
PStone wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:02 pm


Yes, it will leave the blade a bit open if you fight to leave your finger on the tab. But my experience has been similar to the shaman. The bump of the choil hits my finger, but pushes it off at just the right time so that it just closes. I have been constantly fidgeting with this since yesterday morning and have had no problems whatsoever.

Sure I totally respect if someone just does not like the finger being "hit" when closing a comp. lock knife, but still I have to say: I personally don´t fully understand why.
I have quite a bit experience and use with the comp. lock,mainly with my PM2, where the finger does not "get hit", but when I could handle a Shaman twice, from the very beginning it was no issue at all for me that a bit of the choil extended into the comp. lock cutout when closing the knife.

That being said: I really like the Watus design, but I personally think a linerlock (like on the Chokwe) would suit it even a tad better than a comp. lock. I am not talking functionality here, but just about the overall "basic, simple" style of the knife, while the comp. lock is somehow a very sophisticated "modern" type of lock.
I agree. I get why some people don’t like it. But I’m not one of them. I actually think it helps me time my release better, and avoid the “bouncing” that I sometimes get with my pm2.

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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby captnvegtble » Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:37 pm

Mine arrived today. Totally awesome!

I think this might kick the Delica out of my pocket... it's superior in many ways... more neutral grip, pointy tip, thinner grind, deep carry wire clip. The only thing missing is a black wire clip, which is easily remedied.

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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby samdasnake » Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:39 pm

Got email that mine shipped today! So excited!!!

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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby bbturbodad » Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:49 pm

You guys are such enablers :p I was trying to resist but...
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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby Mushroom » Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:06 pm

Thats an awesome shot, Turbo!
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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby curlyhairedboy » Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:50 am

Mine came in yesterday and it's everything I hoped it would be! Big thank you to Sal!
EDC Rotation: PITS, Shaman, CF S90v Shaman, Ikuchi, Amalgam, CruCarta Shaman, DLC Lil Native, Sage 5 LW, 4V Shaman, Watu, Rex 45 Shaman, Rex 45 Lil Native, Caribbean Sheepsfoot CQI, Waterway, Tanto PM2, CQI Kapara
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Re: Watu...AKA Lil Chokwe

Postby bbturbodad » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:14 am

Mushroom wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:06 pm
Thats an awesome shot, Turbo!
Thanks! Im looking forward to carrying it today. Looks like this one's gonna end up getting a lot of pocket time. :D
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