Linerless: Any issues?
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Re: Linerless: Any issues?
I know people talked about replacing scales, and for frn I would agree there is a big issue, but if its linerless g10 then you could still machine your own g10 replacement scales. It would be more difficult, especially with stepped pins, but it could be done with skill and the right equipment.
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Re: Linerless: Any issues?
This is true, but I can't imagine very many people have access to a cnc router, or knowledge of how to properly use one. The precision needed, is beyond what most(myself included) can do with simple hand tools. Even a Dremel wont give the desired results, without hours of hand sanding and filling. I've made scales for fixed blade knives/machetes by hand, and even without the intricacies on the inner side of the scales, it still takes a lot of work and time to get it right. Fixed blade scales are easy compared to most folders, since you only have to worry about making sure they're true, even, shaped properly, and drilled in the right spots. No milling required.VooDooChild wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:05 pmI know people talked about replacing scales, and for frn I would agree there is a big issue, but if its linerless g10 then you could still machine your own g10 replacement scales. It would be more difficult, especially with stepped pins, but it could be done with skill and the right equipment.
That said, if you DO have access to a cnc router, with the knowledge and skills to make scales, just make sets for linerless knives, so this becomes a non-issue for everyone else. Please. :D
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Re: Linerless: Any issues?
You could do it without a cnc machine, but exactly like you said it would be a PAIN in the butt. You would be shooting for measurements too close to get to with your eyes, especially given Spydercos very tight tolerances. None the less, there are definitely some craftsman out there who could pull it off. Maybe they should start making g10 scales for linerless models like the native 5 :) .Albatross wrote:This is true, but I can't imagine very many people have access to a cnc router, or knowledge of how to properly use one. The precision needed, is beyond what most(myself included) can do with simple hand tools. Even a Dremel wont give the desired results, without hours of hand sanding and filling. I've made scales for fixed blade knives/machetes by hand, and even without the intricacies on the inner side of the scales, it still takes a lot of work and time to get it right. Fixed blade scales are easy compared to most folders, since you only have to worry about making sure they're true, even, shaped properly, and drilled in the right spots. No milling required.VooDooChild wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:05 pmI know people talked about replacing scales, and for frn I would agree there is a big issue, but if its linerless g10 then you could still machine your own g10 replacement scales. It would be more difficult, especially with stepped pins, but it could be done with skill and the right equipment.
That said, if you DO have access to a cnc router, with the knowledge and skills to make scales, just make sets for linerless knives, so this becomes a non-issue for everyone else. Please. :D
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Re: Linerless: Any issues?
^^This^^Surfingringo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:08 amNo advantage to having liners in my usage and numerous advantages to linerless. My linerless knives (salts) get used FAR heavier than any other folders I own. I have never had the slightest issue with strength or integrity with linerless frn knives. Same story with G10. The main advantages for me are lighter weight and vastly improved corrosion resistance. I’ve gotten so used to the LW knives that I rarely carry g10 knives with liners anymore. I don’t hate liners but given the choice I’ll take the weight savings and corrosion resistance of linerless.
I sincerely wish Spyderco would make more linerless models. IMHO linerless should be standard.
Re: Linerless: Any issues?
My Caribbean is pretty darned corrosion resistant, relatively light and undeniably stronger. I like them and the weight doesn't bother me.Surfingringo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:08 amNo advantage to having liners in my usage and numerous advantages to linerless. My linerless knives (salts) get used FAR heavier than any other folders I own. I have never had the slightest issue with strength or integrity with linerless frn knives. Same story with G10. The main advantages for me are lighter weight and vastly improved corrosion resistance. I’ve gotten so used to the LW knives that I rarely carry g10 knives with liners anymore. I don’t hate liners but given the choice I’ll take the weight savings and corrosion resistance of linerless.
I guess if I got to frolic around in my swimmies all the time like some people, I'd care more about weight. :p
We'll have to agree to disagree.
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Re: Linerless: Any issues?
My Pacific Salt locks up like the proverbial bank vault. I can honestly say that it locks up tighter than any other Spyderco backlock I have owned.
It has seen a lot of use since I took this picture, and I haven't even had to tighten the pivot.
It has seen a lot of use since I took this picture, and I haven't even had to tighten the pivot.
Re: Linerless: Any issues?
Thanks for the feedback on linerless Spydies. Like I said, I've never had a problem. With that being said, I haven't put them through hard use like Lance has. Spyderco has been making linerless models for a long time. I guess if there was an issue we would know by now. I will continue to enjoy my linerless models.
It wouldn't surprise me if the new Pac Salt 2 is linerless.
It wouldn't surprise me if the new Pac Salt 2 is linerless.
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I'd be shocked if the Pac Salt 2 has liners. I agree that we'd know by now if there was a problem with liner-less knives.Hobnob wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:00 pmThanks for the feedback on linerless Spydies. Like I said, I've never had a problem. With that being said, I haven't put them through hard use like Lance has. Spyderco has been making linerless models for a long time. I guess if there was an issue we would know by now. I will continue to enjoy my linerless models.
It wouldn't surprise me if the new Pac Salt 2 is linerless.
Re: Linerless: Any issues?
Sal has already said that that Pac Salt 2 will be linerless.ugaarguy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:13 pmI'd be shocked if the Pac Salt 2 has liners. I agree that we'd know by now if there was a problem with liner-less knives.Hobnob wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:00 pmThanks for the feedback on linerless Spydies. Like I said, I've never had a problem. With that being said, I haven't put them through hard use like Lance has. Spyderco has been making linerless models for a long time. I guess if there was an issue we would know by now. I will continue to enjoy my linerless models.
It wouldn't surprise me if the new Pac Salt 2 is linerless.
Re: Linerless: Any issues?
I’ve never had any issues with linerless knives. I like both linered and linerless.
I will say that I feel the linerless FRN knives of more recent years (post-2K) seem more solid at the pivot during cutting than the ones back in the ‘90s. I could be wrong, but that’s my impression from use.
Jim
I will say that I feel the linerless FRN knives of more recent years (post-2K) seem more solid at the pivot during cutting than the ones back in the ‘90s. I could be wrong, but that’s my impression from use.
Jim